Snapped winch cable

[Turbo]

OK, so I managed to snap about 20 feet of winch cable off the quad. So heres my question: should I just do a quick fix using those "u type" clamps princess auto has that are specifically for attaching cable? Or should I get new cable? I remember hearing something a while back about syntheic winch cable, it was just as strong if not better than normal cable but was a smaller diametre so you could spool more. Any thoughts and a guestimate on the cost would be appreciated.

[Wolf]

Hey Turbo...not working today either eh?
Contact vinnie for a price on the synthetic rope, those that have it seem to swear by it as the way to go. The real nice thing about it that if it snaps, it does not recoil like a wire cable can.

[vinnie]

THANKS WOLFIE got the ropes in stock 100.00 with fairlead

[barkerlakebob]

OK, so I managed to snap about 20 feet of winch cable off the quad. So heres my question: should I just do a quick fix using those "u type" clamps princess auto has that are specifically for attaching cable? Or should I get new cable? I remember hearing something a while back about syntheic winch cable, it was just as strong if not better than normal cable but was a smaller diametre so you could spool more. Any thoughts and a guestimate on the cost would be appreciated.

My recommendation's would be:
Use the temporary fix ONLY to get you home one time only. Don't splice cable with clamps....its not a recommended practise - and - Get synthetic rope ....... as Wolf says.....no recoil and its a lot safer. I bought mine from Vinnie....got a good deal.

[Stryk]

I upgraded to synthetic from vinnie a while back, on both the 400 and 800, no regrets! The rope seems much better than cable, easier to spool out, winds in easier and will pull my stuck butt out of anywhere. The u bolts I would advise only as a "temp" fix, for a long term solution, go synthetic, you'll be happy you did. :scooter:

[Maxter]

Get synthetic (Amsteel) from Vinnie. It is the only way to go. I used to go through 2 cables per year (1 summer & 1 winter) I am now into my third season (3 winters, 2 summers) with my first synthetic cable and it is still in top shape. Yes it is more than steel cable initially but really a lot cheaper in the long run, not to mention the safety factor as well.

Do Not get any Taiwanese copy cr*p. Get the real thing from Vinnie.

[Turbo]

Thanks for the input. I guess my next day off I'll be heading out to see Vinnie.

[muddyguy]

I was also thinking of changing my cable for a synthetic rope also.100 bux is a good price if it lasts as long as everyone says it does. How many feet can i get on a 2500lb warn winch.

[vinnie]

u can put all 50 feet on

[03660]

Thanks for the input. I guess my next day off I'll be heading out to see Vinnie.

And where would one go to see Vinnie about the synthetic rope? Thanks

[justgiver]

My recommendation's would be:
Use the temporary fix ONLY to get you home one time only. Don't splice cable with clamps....its not a recommended practise - and - Get synthetic rope ....... as Wolf says.....no recoil and its a lot safer. I bought mine from Vinnie....got a good deal.

If done properly with clamps it can be effective, but you do get a significant amount of reduction in the capacity of the cable. But i would agree if going long term get the ends swaged.

[vinnie]

And where would one go to see Vinnie about the synthetic rope? Thanks
THE BIG TOWN OF STONEWALL OR I CAN POP IT IN THE MAIL FOR U IF REQUIRED

[Flagtailhunter]

Hey vinnie,
Do I require a different fairlead with this synthetic rope? I have a roller fairlead that I have yet to install.
As you know, there is a fair amount of wear and tear on the cable from using the winch for my plow. I assume the rope will stand up better to the sharp angle required for the plow, or will it?

[Turbo]

Due to time constraints, I got a cable from princess auto. Cost me 10$.

[sled_head_440]

As stated before a u clamp will reduce the capacity of your cable. But just standard u clip aren't that great. howver you also have to consider the efect of the u bolt wrapping on the drum and the wire that will be lying on top.

[Loudelectronics]

Due to time constraints, I got a cable from princess auto. Cost me 10$.

That rope is different then the spectra (hmpwe, amsteel, plasma rope etc etc whatever you want to call it)! It is not as strong as cable let alone spectra. Spectra is almost twice the strength of steel the same diameter. It offers no stretch, no recoil and high tension strength. So in other words, its worth every penny of that 100 bucks.

[Turbo]

Just to clarify it wasn't cable plus the "u" type clamps. It was winching cable rated to 2000lbs with a hook on the end for 10$

[bwery]

Princess auto frquently has their cables going on on sale. you can buy 50 ft for $15. I use the aluminum sleeves to put the hook back on which is about $2. For reliability the synthetic would be the way to go. As for the repair job, not sure if that would be a good idea except for something very temorary. the clamp would most likely get caught on the fairlead and I doubt it would wrap well on the drum. Personally I would just leave it the 20 FT. short and repair it as soon as I get the chance. I also carry a tow strap not only towing, but also to give me an extra bit of lenght if my cable won't reach, or if the cable snaps short.

[Bister]

I have the rope on mine from my dealer and warn says to change the fairlead to a new one cause the old one will have cuts and scrapes in it and it will shorten the life of the rope. I went through 2 cables then changed to rope. Love it. No more cuts in my hands from frayed cable.

[Twotone]

While synthetic rope is stronger and easier to work with it is not as resistant to abrasion (on rocks and such) as the steel. Steel cables however tend to self destruct by kinking on the drum etc. and as we all know, they develop meathooks pretty quick. Synth. is for sure the most practical.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using cable clamps at the end of a broken cable to make a new loop to attach the hook. That's what they're for after all. If installed with the saddle on the live side of the loop and the u bolt on the dead side of the loop it will be fine. A good way to remember the right way to put cable clamps on is 'never Saddle a Dead horse'. I often see loops made with two clamps installed in opposite orientations, this is wrong.

Using cable clamps to rejoin a broken off piece to the remaining cable is not at all practical for use with a winch and should not be done. Just make a new loop at the end. I think the orginal poster was just talking about making a new loop.

[barkerlakebob]

While synthetic rope is stronger and easier to work with it is not as resistant to abrasion (on rocks and such) as the steel. Steel cables however tend to self destruct by kinking on the drum etc. and as we all know, they develop Meathooks pretty quick. Synth. is for sure the most practical.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using u-clips at the end of a broken cable to make a new loop to attach the hook. That's what they're for after all. If intalled with the saddle on the live side of the loop and the u bolt on the dead side of the loop it will be fine. A good way to remember the right way to put cable clamps on is 'never Saddle a Dead horse'. I often see loops made with two clamps installed in opposite orientations, this is wrong.

Using cable clamps to rejoin a broken off piece to the remaining cable is not at all practical and should not be done. Just make a new loop at the end. I think the orgininal poster was just talking about making a new loop.

Good information for sure. The last person I heard use the phrase "never saddle a dead horse" in respect to cables had taken a vehicle recovery course. He had a lot to offer from his former trade. Apparently hooks are designed to react a certain way under severe stress as well. Most impressive !

Thanks.........!:cheers:

Thanks again !