Aftermarket Tires

[HotWheels]

Hey trackshare crew,picked up my bike today at my dealer and while I was there I went upstairs to the accessories mezzanine. To my suprise my dealer stocks alot of aftermarket tires,some already mounted and ready to go!from 25 to 27'' they had mudbugs ,mudlites,589s,bearclaws,and dirt devil xt's which caught my eye!Neat to see the different tires and sizes side by side to give you a fair comparison of treads and heights which got me thinkin....Wonder how these different tires preform?
Well who better to ask than the members of trackshare?Thought it'd be neat to have a thread where we can post what tires we run and the pros and cons of each different tire!So come on, let us know honestly what you think of your rubber and please lets NOT turn this into a thread for the battlegrounds, but instead lets make it a place for members to get honest tire opinions.:cheers:

[Ramco]

Good idea Hotwheels !

Well i really like my tires. I like the wide flat paddles on them for in the mud and water, and there a really flat surfaced tire that helps flotation in the swamps and soft surface. They clean well and hook up really well. they seem too just reach ahead and grab another big chunk of clean earth on every lug.

On the trail they ride not too bad. I have 12 wide on the front and rear. you have too always be ready when on the trail because they really pull to the side when in ruts or uneven surfaces. It's a good sign that there getting traction but you don't need that much on the trail. The one thing that bothers me the most compared too some of the other after market tires is when i go over a small tree with about a 4-5 inch diameter laying across a trail they often want to suddenly follow the tree. Seems if the tree hits right between the paddles it slides down the tree like a train on tracks. kinda funn when it happens but scared as all heck that it's going to aim me into a tree one time.

As for me i think it makes a great mud and trail tire aimed more for the mud then the trail riding though. soon we shall see what they do in the snow. These tires fit my ridding style just perfect and i don't know which tire i would want if these became unavailable. I did a year of research before i decided which tire i would buy and these for my preference came out in the lead with just about every feature i would want.

Once again i echo hot wheels and say this topic is just your opion of your own tire and should not become a mine are better then yours battle. Let's let readers make there own conclusion too them selfs.

[straight pipe]

all right! if you have a older ride like my trikes. i really like the carlise strykers.they are available at most places that sell atv tires. the cheapest that i have seen them has been princess auto. they trail,swamp and soon to find out snow good.this is a good idea:humbs:

[Maxter]

Good Idea

ITP Mudlite a common tire for a good reason

When I was looking for tires I decided on ITP Mudlites as they appeared to suit my favorite type of trail riding and looked as though they would handle the mud as well. The one thing I was never told at the time was that the 22 inch to 25 inch Mudlite ATV tires have a tread depth of 11/16 of an inch.
The 26 inch, 27 inch and 28 inch Mudlite ATV tires have a tread depth of 1 and 1/8 of an inch. That’s a whopping 50% more tread depth. Well worth having for the nominal price differance. As with most atv tires they will fit on your 7"-7.5" stock rims but be carefull, your ride may want a different offset to accomadate the wider tires (if you go wider than stock). Then you can go to different rims or just use spacer plates that you can buy for about $50.00 per wheel.

tire produces a quite ride and a smooth ride if you have independant suspension, quite a bit rougher ride on solid axel units. Seem to wook good in normal mud but if you want to swamp ride I lways get left behind. I blame it on the tires.

In my opinion a good all around tire for trail and mud

[mailman]

I agree with Maxter. I really like my MudLites. 26 inchers fit on stock rims, ride smoother than the rawhides the bike came with, and the price is a bargain. They do seem a little soft, but that should help in the snow...we'll see. All in all, not the greatest mud tire, but a great all around one!

[JeeperV6]

The one thing I learnt about Mudlites and taught to non-Mudlite people...

If you're going down any type of terrain with gravel/stones/rocks, stay well behind a Mudlite equipped quad. They seem to pick up and throw stones pretty well.

I think for a good all-around all-terrain type of tire, the Mudlites are pretty good. If my primary riding interest/style was nothing but mud & swamps, then I'd be seriously looking at ITP 589's or Mudzillas. Or of course, Highlifter's Outlaw series of tires... <evil grin>

[Maxter]

I'd sure like to hear an unbiased report on the mudzillas. I hear that you need a lot of power to turn them.
A buddy had a 400 Artic cat std. trans and could not turn (spin when boged down) the 26" mudlites. He upgraded to a 500 artic cat with auto trans (CVT) and now has no problem turning them. I have a 400 H.O. Bombardier Outlander and have no problem turning the 25" mudlites and the dealer claims others with the 400 H.O. Outlanders claim they can turn the 26" as well. I plan on finding out soon with my own machine.

[HotWheels]

Ok boys and girls.Here it is.The Mudzilla:rocker:
I might not be the best to review this tire as some members have litteraly thousands of miles on their zillas but here it goes..........
this is one great tire.If you want ''one '' of the best mud tires this is for you!It pulls amazingly through all that you put it through and riding them in the swamps almost give you a feeling of invincability:cool2: .Its like reverse of what you think............The deeper you are the less throttle you need in some situations........the tires just keep pulling while others are spinning.In the swamps and mud this tire is definately one of the best just ask those who run them but that ''deep stuff"preformance comes at a price........
These tires are NOT the best choice for a trail tire.They tend to shimmey and shake at very low and high speeds.The extra weight of these bad boys will afect your quads preformance unless you have alot of cc's to spare......
Steering is afected at lower speeds due to the excessive weight.
I'm assuming it'll pull well in deep snow but I have no experience with them in the white stuff.
I found them to be quite hard to control on rock and other hard surfacesbut hence the name.................
Again,if you want one of the best tires for the deep mud and swamps look into these tires.
If you want a replacement tire for worn out stockers this may not be the tire for you as it is quite specific......
And remember crew,don't flame me for sayin this but this is an honest OPINION for future reference purposes.......:cheers:

[QUADZILLA]

I agree with hot wheels, and I will include that they are REALLY good in DEEP snow, even snow that isn't that deep, they will find terrafirma and excavate or extract. I even run these on ice because if there is a skif of snow or some uneven ice or anything BUT glare polished ice they will grip something.

I've got about 5K on a set of 28's and they show very little wear, never punctured them and don't really care what I drive over, it won't hurt the tire.

You need big power to turn them in sand and they like to dig, I keep a set of stockers on rims for those days.

Also they are slipery on wet rock.

On another note I like the Bear claw and always wanted to replace my stockers with a set of those, never had a set though so if there is anyone out there with these tell us what you think of them.

I was impresser with the new radials on the 05 Polaris too

PS Last Mudzilla comment for me ....... HUGE COOL FACTOR!:rockin:

[HotWheels]

C'mon trackshare crew,Let us know about your rubber, inquiring minds want to know:cheers: Its all good don't be shy,Lets talk tires!:cool2:

[OUTLANDISH]

Hey folks...........I first had the 27"inch Bear Claws on my Kodiac...............they worked very well.....nice light tire with an aggressive side bite...........not puncture resistant although never had a problem...they just seem soft.....my brother has them on his griz now......same ones so they must have about 7K on them .....still decent shape........get them at casterland or from VINCE........reasonably priced as well.....about $85.00 i think.............I then ha a set of 28" zillas on the Griz.......good ride on hard pack......wear Very well......had 5500k and they looked like new........excellent hook up and incredible in mud or swamp.........and would be very difficult to puncture.......heavy and they took alot out of the griz.....now have new 28" zillas on the Brute and this thing has no lag with these tires..............very pleased with the zillas..........in the snow though the Claws are superior......I think its cause they are lighter and therefore easier to turn...........just my 2 cents.....if you have any other questions about the Bear Claws....my brother is Buggeeboy, trackshare member....

[Maxter]

Kenda Bearclaw

[OUTLANDISH]

thanks for the picture Maxter..........

[vinnie]

well gentlman & ladie trac share people i must agree with all ov you on all aftermarket tires :thnx: :thnx: :thnx: that they are all certanily better than the :wtf: :wtf: oe tyres it just depends on where you ride on and where you go i have problay sol 150 to 300 sets of tyres and assorted rim sets and you know what everybodys happy :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: thanks to aftemarket toys :drunk: :drunk: anyway the way i see it every body has the aftermarket choice its your choice and enjoy it :rock1: :rock1: :rock1: i no i do ride

[OUTLANDISH]

Hey Vinnie...hows things.......tires and rims are looking and working great..........just so everyone knows this is the person i refered to in regards to getting tires..........rims and all the other good stuff u need for your quad...........

[williec403]

I've been running a set of 28-12x12 MudLites for over a year and really like them. On my 2004.5 Sportsman 700 carb they are very smooth on the hard stuff and I have had few problems in the deep mud. A nephew of mine has Super Swamper Vampires on his SP 700 and has been amazed that I have followed him through some very nasty stuff without any more problems than he had. I have read that they wear very fast, but mine show very little wear after a year. I do not know how many mile I have on them.

I recently bought a 2004.5 700 EFI that has 26-12x12 Highlifter Outlaws all around. I do NOT like these tires at all. They are rough riding, too agressive (they sling too much mud) and tend to cause equipment breakage. They will be for sale as soon as I can replace them. They have less than 100 miles on them. I will be replacing them with 28-12x12 MudLites.

[Maxter]

26-12x12 Highlifter Outlaws all around. I do NOT like these tires at all.

Very interesting regarding the Outlaws . I was looking for a pic of them and could only find the Radial Outlaw (pic posted below) Is the same tire your referring too?

[williec403]

Maxter, I could not find a picture of the straight Outlaws that I could post. Follow this link (http://www.highlifter.com/catalog/pdf/tires.pdf) and the ones I have are the second tire down the page. I think the radial Outlaws are supposed to be a little smoother riding and less aggressive than the regular outlaws. I also heard that the radials have been discontinued. Not positive about that.

[HotWheels]

So lets modify this thread a bit.........wondering the pros and cons to runnin 9s or 10s all around as opposed to the traditional 12s in the rear!

[williec403]

My personal reasons for running 12's is floatation. They do not sink as quickly in the mud as narrower tires do. Floatation is not just a water factor, it also applies to sand and anything that you can sink into. A bigger footprint does not sink as quickly as a smaller one. And they look BAD!!!

Now, The old TSL Vampires were only 28x10" wide and were always considered to be one of the best mud tires ever. Go figure.

[vinnie]

not i dont really agree whith that ya it works wide floating but i personally have ben running 12.x12s on the rear and900.x12s on the front of my grizz 04 silvertip for almost 8600 clicks now and ive walked around lots of the wide guys like posted before its not what ya got its if you know how to use it right guys

[NachoMan]

Its not the size of your Lure........its how you wiggle your Worm !

[Ramco]

Good one nacho :)))

[QUADZILLA]

Hey guys me again, you know I can't stay out of the tire threads, I'm just drawn to them I guess!

Anyway, I run 28x10 Mudzilla's on stock rims on all 4 corners for a couple of reasons.

First and foremost ....... I stay a lot cleaner. The tires tuck neatly under the fenders.

Then I like the same size tire front and rear because the front tire clears the way for the rear and then the rear tire can drive in a clear or clearer path. I was running 27x9's front and 12's rear and I found that the rears would hang out like 3 - 4 inches more than the front so they were clearing that 3-4 inches. If you have ever driven a dually truck with 1 side in deep snow on the shoulder and the other side on the road you would know very well what kind of resistance I'm talking about.

Then last but not least, my bike is no wider than stock so I can still fit between trees on tight trails, you think I'm joking, but I have seen guy get stuck between 2 trees because they thought they could fit and then have to cut the tree down. Not fun when your neck deep in mud Right guys?

Also I run the 28's because for what I give up in width I try to make up in height. I did notice the wide tires would grip the sides of ruts andget traction there so I figured go big and try to get to the bottom. Besides mudzillas are great in ruts they will drive in, out, across, around wherever you point them.

That is my 50 cents on this. I'm really happy with the 10's all the way around.

:cheers:

[HotWheels]

Hey Trackshare lets keep this thread alive!C'mon tell us what tire you are runnin and what you like and dislike about it... :woot:

[RJD]

Lots of good points guys, obvously lots of experiance on this topic. Theres not many tires Ihaven't run, and one that really surprised me is the bear claw- ya agood all round tire, but better than expected inthe mud. Ifound the zillas fell below my needs everywhere but the mud, I crawl lots of rocks and logs - not good. Onour 500 we run `bugs on front,`laws onback for mud bogs, it works well
29.5'' `Laws--what do yousay a class all their own -TRACKTION- (and often component breakage)
Best tire I've ever run; MUD MACHINES wet rocks - great, logs - great trail-great snow - give me 6 months ill let you know mud - awsome. similer to zillas in mud - better everywhere else, may not beat out `laws in the mud but again better everywhere else. But thats just my opinion

[ichevyluvr]

I had bear claws first. 27-10-12, 27-12-12
On the trail they wear great tires. Logs and rocks was no challage. The soft side walls molded over whatever I wanted to climb.
I sitched to Mudzilla's 28-12-12 all around.
Because I do more deep mud riding then anything else. They have yet to fail me. I lost a lot of top end and I get really mud so do the poeple around me. (I like to share) That is ok cause that is how I ride.
With my rims I drive over ruts made by other quads. And IT LOOKS MEAN!!!!! :kick: :woohoo: :humbs: :rocker:

[bbertram]

Its a girly quad, lol. :)

[700]

i ran mud lites before the mudzillas and i have to say they were a great improvement over stock. i found they worked well in just about anything. the mudzillas on the other hand are a great tire in my book's, they pull you through the mud and swamp like nothing. the ride isn't that bad on the trails and they seem to plane-out at 35-45 mph. there is a couple of things i don't like about them. they dig and pull when your not expecting it and if your on a one-way trail and the tires had to work to get you in there, it's sometimes like work to get out.

i think wider is better, i run 9's in front and 12's in rear. i would of put 12's on the front but, it came down to the (breakage factor) and i had to put off-set rims just to fit the 9's, so that means more time and $$$ for the 12's.

[bbertram]

I don't have much trouble keeping up with other quads in the mud with my mudlites. I've never really had a direct competition though, so it is really hard to compare. I like the mudlites because they are light as a feather, aggressive enough and run smooth and still give a nice ride.

I really recommend them though, they have never let me down.

[dabidbaddblud]

As some of you know I was riding on titan 589's 8 and 10 x 25" on an 03 500 ac manual

I liked the tires, aggressive rode well, no loss of power... but they were to narrow for the floating bog and I would cut through instead of going forward.

now I have 12" x 27" executioners all the way around - made by kenda
and I'm still surprised at what they pull me through

At low speed they are bumpy on roads etc, but you would not notice it in the trails

the floating bog I have found and made holes in did not have bottom as far as I could tell - chest waders and sticks

The executioners have not ripped through the bog like the titans did, but they are wider and higher to disperse the weight,

I also picked up bbertram's rims which the back was SRA so the offset sets my rears out even further, now 1/2 of all my tires stick out past the fenders and each back tire graps 3" of new material to pull instead of digging down in the same rut.

this is where a few people will disagree with me I belive it is better for traction if your rear tires have something new to grab.

since getting my executioners I have not needed my winch, unless the machine drowns.... that is my own damn fault.

the only thing that stops me now is I'm pushing to much crap in front of me and I'm slightly floating and I can't grab anything, BUT then I throw it in reverse and out I come

I don't ram into the swamps, I crawl without spinning, it is key up here, you never know when it will drop out on the bottom :omg: and you won't see your machine ever again.

then again a few guys up here have the bearclaws and man can they perform, my brother even has them on his yamaha trike and he just has to miss the deep water holes to follow me, but he is 300lbs lighter

Merv

[ichevyluvr]

Its a girly quad, lol. :)
Are you looking to start something????
Mister my feminine side needed a new truck!!!!!!!! lol.

[Bubbles]

Here's a picture of the Green Ball Gators .. They look like the mud bugs.... Is anyone running them if so, what do you think of them. They come in a variety of sizes... :humbs:

Bubbles :friday:

[RJD]

I bought a set of gators a few years ago, they chewed good, ran nice & didn't eat much power, BUT, I noticed a few cracks, then saw that everyone I knew with gators (7 sets) all started to crack after about a full year or so, & by 2 or 3 seasons ,cracked bad,

[NoTrainingWheel]

I have to agree with dabid, The bearclaws are great on a trike low speed high speed no problems. Mud, snow, swamp what ever they get me through. All it takes is proper throttle control and i can go anywhere the 12,000+ doller machines go. As for the deep water holes if i get in them most of the time all i do is float. I avoid the deep stuff because i know 9 times out of 10 dabid is going to need a pull maybe you should have built a para scope on that thing brother!:drink9: :leaving:

[bbertram]

Are you looking to start something????
Mister my feminine side needed a new truck!!!!!!!! lol.


hehe, start something? no, not me. PM bakes about a pit ride Saturday.

[Loudelectronics]

I run ITP Holeshot ATR's. The are a light wieght trail tire. However They will surprise you in the mud. They will pull you through it but if their is any climbing on the other side you will have to do some work. I like them cause they track true and do not push in the corners. So even though i have them on my kodiak with limited power they would really shine on a big bore cause they tend to push more in corners any way. They allow you to take fast corners and the fronts grip like rails and the rear will slide around like a sport bike. Makes for a fun ride. Since they are radial they do real well in the snow and make for good plowing tires. Do not buy if you want to save the ground cause they dig. Killed my lawn pretty quick. Never tried them on sand but i know the holeshots for sport quads work good. I know dirtwheels put them on the BF750 and they greatly improved the driveability of the machine for high speed trail riding. If any one has ? on these tires feel free to ask cause i swear buy them.

[peedon]

i've had 589's and reallyn enjoyed them but at slow speed they had a shake on hard ground. they also seemed to take some power to turn. 450 es honda with 27/9/12 on front and 27/11/12 on rear.now i have goodyear mud runners on my new 450 27/9/12 front and 27/12/12 on rear. boy do these tire perform in the mud....and they trail ride very nice with no roughness or grabbing.:woohoo:

[HotWheels]

Hey guys...i sAW THE NEW polaris Kendaw bounty hunter tires and 14" rims today!!!Look amazin and decent price for a new tire and wheels combo!Lighter than the stock 800 aluminum setup and about 2" taller even though its a 26"tire...Wider fronts as well...similar tread to the PXT stockers but a bit more aggressive...Should increase the top speed for all the queens out there...check em out!

[happyhunter]

I was surfing the net today lookin for new tires for my 650 brute and caught a look at the new Swamp Lites, built by TSL, supposed to be light like Mud Lights but better in mud. They certainly look different. I think I might try a set.

[Maxter]

Hey guys...i sAW THE NEW polaris Kendaw bounty hunter tires and 14" rims today!!!Look amazin and decent price for a new tire and wheels combo!Lighter than the stock 800 aluminum setup and about 2" taller even though its a 26"tire...Wider fronts as well...similar tread to the PXT stockers but a bit more aggressive...Should increase the top speed for all the queens out there...check em out!
Do you have alink to any site that shows them? Are these tires radials?

[HotWheels]

and it's a radial..... these are Hotwheels style !!! :woohoo:

[optima23]

HW style.. what are you a queen

[bbertram]

Very nice rim and tire.

[HotWheels]

Hey crew ...add another AMAZING tire to your tire wish list...the Maxxis Bighorn Radial...I bought a set on c-6s a while back and being springtime then i opted to run my Zillas and then a set of Mud Machines...mud tires for derby season...Loved how the mud tires preformed but after runnin these...will be hard to go back...Best trail tire I have ridden...hooked up everywhere and even when you think they shouldn't...they did.Deep ruts can be traversed without slippin into them even with wet mud for traction...when we got into deeper mud these things would power out of holes as i was scared to get stuck...then as the day went by i tried to ease my way through holes and to my suprise they hooked up...I would say it is comparable to the PXT that so many rave about but the weakness PXT shows is in soft sidewalls and super soft compound meaning faster wear...these things shine...super tough sidewall and long lastin tread...
If you ever are in need of a GREAT all around tire that'll actually suprise you...give these a try...you won't be disappointed ...o yea...they LOOK cool too!!

[HotWheels]

Here 's a pic...hopefully Mailman got one of them on my quad...

[RJD]

Well, it takes a lot to impress me when it comes to tires, but these were impressive on saturday, (although there no Mud Machine) but for a trail tire it can cross over to mud very well. I do mostly mud runnin, and some trail to get to the mud, so they wouldn't be my choice for my ONLY tire, but if you run mostly trails and some mud, definatly consider the Bighorns
FYI - the picture doesn't do the "look" of them justice

[mailman]

How's this?

[mudhead]

Hey everybody, I'm new on this site and I need help choosing new aftermarket tires. there is so muchto chose from. I do some trail and as much mud as i can find. I've been considering the kenda executioner tires because they look like they would do the job. The one thing that bothers me about them is there actual size. I was told that their height is not actually what is specified on the tire. For instance a 26" only 25" on the rim and a 27" is only 26''.
Can any body clarify this for me

[Grizzly SE]

I'd sure like to hear an unbiased report on the mudzillas. I hear that you need a lot of power to turn them.
A buddy had a 400 Artic cat std. trans and could not turn (spin when boged down) the 26" mudlites. He upgraded to a 500 artic cat with auto trans (CVT) and now has no problem turning them. I have a 400 H.O. Bombardier Outlander and have no problem turning the 25" mudlites and the dealer claims others with the 400 H.O. Outlanders claim they can turn the 26" as well. I plan on finding out soon with my own machine.

Oh come on, it can't take that much power to turn them, QZ has a set on his "BRUTE".j/k LMAO:cheers:

[mailman]

Hotwheels used to run 26" Zillas on a Polaris 400 and only had problems in the nastiest stuff. I have a very hard time believing a 500 Cat can't turn them. Pro Comp runs 28's on his!

[Maxter]

The 500 cat could turn them. It was the 400 cat that couldn't.

[QUADZILLA]

Oh come on, it can't take that much power to turn them, QZ has a set on his "BRUTE".j/k LMAO:cheers:
Yup 28's on a 750 and that V-twin spank's them Zillers somtin feirce!

And with the CDI ..... WOW! UN-FREAKIN Believable?

I wasn't as impressed with the CDI and stock tires. But with the Ziller Killers on I have realized how much the Brute was spinning with dem Snake bellies.

Now she ripps "Terra Firma" right out from under the bike and spits it out the back while torque twisting the bike into a power wheelie!

Freakin Fenomonal! till I fried my CDI?:nono:

Oh well running stock till next week for sure?

[mailman]

The 500 cat could turn them. It was the 400 cat that couldn't.
Oops, right, my bad, sorry.:nono: :sleep1:

[07BruteRider]

Mud head put zillas or outlaws on if you ride mostly mud I run 28'' zillas and i do alot of mud , gravel pit , gravel roads, highways, and bush trails and i find them really good. i think they are smoother than my old 27'' mudlites i would say they are gonna wear about the same but i only have 2000kms on the zillas where the mudlites had over 8000kms.

[mailman]

I agree, I think Zillas ride smoother than Mudlites too. Zillas are only rough at real slow speeds on hardpack or roads.

[07BruteRider]

my zillas are only rough under about 15 km/h or at 90km/h or above on a really hard gravel road or highway

[mudhead]

Hey Merv: I'm serrrrrriously looking at the executioners. would a 500cc have enough power to turn these tires in the mud and also I heard some discrepency about the height. such as 26''ers measure only 25" at the rcomended air pressure. So what I want to know is- at 5lbs. how tall are your 27"ers. Should I getem 26's or 27's

Mudhead

[ProComp]

Mudhead, you haven't stated what quad you actually have? That would help.

I agree with the others. Unless you do 99% trail riding Zillas are tough to beat. They wear well, handle decent and outmud anything except a Law in my opinion.

[HotWheels]

Don't rule out the Mud Machine....an AMAZING mud tire and the smoothest trail ride of all the mudders...

[bwery]

Just got some 27" mudzillas (thanks Vinnie, your the man!!!!) and I wanted to add my review on these tires for others to read. First of all, the cool factor is way out there. Nothing looks cooler or meaner. In the mud, Theses things are crazy. Tried them in some slop I couldn't go near with my old mudbugs, and I just putted right through it. I went slow and let the tires crawl through and I couldn't believe how they pulled. My only worry with these when it comes to swamp ridding is when you do get stuck, your going to be real stuck!! Something is either going to break or your going to need a team of quaders to pull you out. For the trail, these tires suck! Real rough ridding until you hit about 20 mph which I think is fast for a back country trail. And still you feel it. But what do you want, a mud tire or a trail tire? OVERALL, I love the tires and the rough trail ride dosent bother me. They hook up hard for good acceleration and slide good in the corners. also, the front tires are easy to steer because I geuss not alot of the tire touches the ground

[Critter]

Thanks for the review..Next season I plan on running a true mudder and a true trail tire rather that a hybrid like the XTR.I'll just change them for the appropriate conditions.The Zilla is a candidate for the mudder...30"on the 14" wheels.And prolly Bighorns for the trail

[bwery]

That is exactly the combo I was thinking of, except smaller for the zillas to save on parts.

[Critter]

Yah,I'm not sure about that size either,I know it will fit without a lift but I would have to be very carefull on the throttle and I'm not very good at that.The thing is that I have these 14" wheels and I would like to use them.Oh yah they make the Bighorn in a 14 now!!!!!Perfect

[FOREMAN500]

i have to say that i have 26 mudlites on my honda and i like them alot,but was at vinnies and got to see a set of swamp fox tires very interested in what they work like.But i do like the mudlites,and i do make them work

[mailman]

I likes my Mudlites too, until I tried Zillas and then Outlaws. Whole different league of tire. It's like comparing a streetstock to a Cup car, both good, just waaaaaay different.

[Loudelectronics]

There are definitely different leagues of tires. You got the trail tires (ATR, Big Horns, terracross and others), then you got the multiuse (XTR, Bugs, Foxs, 589, ML, MST, mud runner, etc etc), then you have mud tires ( Mud machines, mudzilla, and EDLS) then you have OUTLAWS. They are above and beyond anything out there. SOmething you have to ride to believe, makes things to easy in most cases.

[bigbear]

My wife and I both run MudBugs on our quads and we like them. Complaints.......yes, they tend to grab stuff (trees),looking for traction, so the wife gets a very busy handle bar to her displeasure, as for me, I guess my beef would be when I travel down a gravel road, they tend to throw rocks up at you. Overall, we're willing to live with those 2 issues. Great tires all the same.

[bwery]

I likes my Mudlites too, until I tried Zillas and then Outlaws. Whole different league of tire. It's like comparing a streetstock to a Cup car, both good, just waaaaaay different.

You got me very curious now mailman! I know you've had both, can you elaborate on how different the traction is with the outlaws and the zilla's? Also compared on the trail and for wear? That might be my next tire. Baby steps! Bugs, zilla's, then outlaws?? How big can you go untill you need a clutch kit with the outlaws and zilla's on a 800 Polaris?

[mailman]

Outlaws are unreal. I think the main difference is how far the lugs wrap around the side. They will grab like crazy! I don't think they wear as well as a zilla, but not bad tho. And with the 800, I think you can run any tire without "having" to have a clutch kit.But Clubin and Got Mud would be able to answer that better than me.

[bwery]

Thanks for the infor mailman. Any info or opinions are welcome and appreciated. Outlaws are big investment that I've been drooling over for a bit. Vinnie gave me to good of a deal to pass up the Zilla's. So far I'm extremly happy.

[Spiderman]

Vinnie is right, the best tires are the tires that suit YOU and your Style of riding.....

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[BDP]

Very informative thread you guys got going here...
I'm kind of torn between Mudzilla's & Outlaw's. Here are my questions, I appreciate any & all opinions:

1 - I do have a set of 26" mudlites for trail days, however, to get from our cabin to any of the mudholes, I will need to do a good 20km round trip on trails (hardpack & sand). SO, although I realize neither are made for the trail, which one (if either) does ride better on the trail?

2 - What size (I'd rather keep the same width front & rear) will fit on an '05 Brute 750? I will be buying rims, so I will likely buy rims with some offset to help with the tire clearance and for some more stability.

3 - What size do you guys think I would have to start adding a clutch kit & or any other performance mods?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions, & let's keep this great thread alive!!

[Javadog]

Just put on 25" maxxis bighorns. They look really cool and can't wait to give them a good run. going to be hard as the snow and hard ground will make a difference. Will let you know.

Love my tires!

[ProComp]

27's if ya don't want to clutch. Zillas if the mud has a bottom, outlaws if it doesn't. I like a staggered size myself. Give the rear something to bite.

[Loudelectronics]

Laws all the way man. There is nothing that compares in the mud. They are actually not that bad of a ride either on smooth trails. In the winter, turn them back wards though so they dont dig. Zilla's are alot hevier and they dont bite as well. I cant think of a situation that zillas will out perform the laws. 27" are a good size. The 26 are good to cause they offer greater width and better floatation. Then you have the 29.5's! They are just one meen tire. They are very smooth but wander in high speeds. You will need clutching to run the 29.5's.

[ProComp]

I can think of two situations, zillas are cheaper and will wear slower. You will also break parts easier with an Outlaw because they do bite better. I'm a huge Outlaw fan but there not for everyone.

[vinnie]

wow look at this views 4thousand plus its almost in the archives camo

[Spiderman]

Even with 27" tire, wether laws or zilla, they are both heavy tires, get at least the Primary done, EPI Mudbuster is my rec. We install 'em all the time, thay are a belt saver, and ALWAYS mud in low, if you go 28"+ on a brute always 4WD in low as well, you have all the power you need, but lets face it the tires are alot bigger and heavier than the factory Dunlops
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--Sorry camo man hope this isn't to forward, not being a dealer on this site yet--

[Got Mud]

I have had 28 zilla's and thought they where great. Liked them and did not think they rode as bad as everyone claimed. Got a set of 29.5 Outlaws and all I can say amazing if you want a pure mud tire Outlaw all the way. And if you are worried about breaking things stay out of the mud LOL. Just kidding it is called throttle control let the tire do its job you don't need to spin the crap out of a true mud tire.

[Ilovetoys]

Comes down to clearance if you don't have it the tires won't do much :).

[HotWheels]

Comes down to clearance if you don't have it the tires won't do much :).
Don't forget the rider plays a big roll too!!!

[quadrunner300]

i run 26 all a round dirt tammers they work great .

[quadrunner300]

on a yamaha 660

[Got Mud]

Comes down to clearance if you don't have it the tires won't do much :).I would agree to a certain point the ground clearance keeps you from gettg hung up and helps alot. If you take a set of 27" bugs and a set of 27" laws and tell me on the same bike there won't be a difference without GC then I would have to dis agree. I ran my 28" zilla's on my 800 Poo and went through things in 4x4 put on the 29.5 Outlaws and yes they are a little taller but it did not make that much diff in GC and I went through the same places in 2 wheel drive where i needed 4x4 with the zilla's. And I had 18"s of GC on my 800 Poo.