Star Choice Satellite (INFO REQRD.)

[Gusser]

I am thinking of installing a satelitte dish and going with star choice. Please give me any opinions you may have.

[vinnie]

pay through the ///// and get nothing disH is the way

[Gusser]

Thanks Vinnie. Who do i see for dishnet? Is it available across the province?

[sled_head_440]

Buy a FTA reciever and get all channels for FREE including ppv and XXX.
Just don't buy a clone.
I reccomend the Viewsat Exterme or Ultra- Costs about $200

[tandr2]

when we first had satellite we went with Bell... BIG mistake... switched to StarChoice after getting fed up with Customer Service @ Bell... excellent Customer Service at Star Choice... couldn't ask for anything more... our monthly bill is about $75 for the Gold package plus some extras.

[GrizzleyPeg]

What do you guys think of the MTS tv?

Is there any sort of grey market stuff, like subscribing to a US service, or is there no advantage anymore?

[tandr2]

We looked into MTS TV... but they aren't in Steinbach yet... looks like OK channels and prices though... I still prefer my Star Choice. :)

[BUSH WACKER]

Go With View Sat

[rbreman]

If you don't mind updating the view sat every now and again. They are fantastic. New models are upgradeable by USB OR USB FLASH DRIVE. Better EPG friend said 4 or 7 days. They are also coming out with an HD version and pvr. I still have my bell but going to cut way back on programing. I don't watch TV except for movies. Wife is big TV watcher (golf)

[Honda king]

go with star. we had bell and they couaht us sharing networks with our family. so we swiched to star. dont get the cheap reacivers. there to slow. go with HD
just my two cents

Matt

[Gusser]

What is the difference between view sat and dish net?

[sled_head_440]

View Sat is a type of Reciever that was designed for the Free to Air system. However their is "Balck Market" programming that allows it to recieve Bell or Dishenet programming. You just have to to understand that there may be occassional down time. However the downtime is very few and far between lately. And the programming is up dated very fast.

[B Man]

What is the difference between view sat and dish net?

veiw sat is a FTA reciever that steals other companies signals, NICE!!!

dish net is a company that has a dish and reciever you can buy and i'm pretty sure you pay a monthly bill.

i really like my VS so far, updated it a few times(never needed just wanted to F with it) and everythings been great. if you have bell now i can help you with set-up, first time is a bit trickey.

[sled_head_440]

For more info on FTA recievers and where to get the Programming go to www.f2atv.com or www.totalfta.com
There are many more sites however these are the ones I use.

[B Man]

i get my bins and codes from f2atv.com and they by far have the best guys on there thats for sure.

[JeeperV6]

Of the two Canadian providers *if* I had had to go legit, I'd go with Bell over Star Choice anyday.

But argh matey since I've got an eye patch and parrot on my shoulder... Here's my preferences:

DirecTV - Love my DirecTV, I won't give it up, especially with my TiVo hooked up to it.

Dishnetwork - You can get it via legit hardware and playing with the cards or you can go FTA like others have mentioned. I've had experience with Pansat and Viewsat receivers. I tend to favor the Viewsats now. I also capture/record with a Hauppauge Mpeg2 DVB satellite card on one PC. It's the slickest set up of them all. Great 1 week epg, unlimited scheduling for recording/watching, editable MPG's etc, just gotta remember to burn the hard drive to DVD once in a while.

As far as Viewsats go, stick with an Extreme or Ultra, they're excellent. I caretake 3 of them. I personally have the Viewsat 7000 PVR and while the twin tuners and PVR functions are ok, the 7000s are nothing to brag about. The MPG's it produces aren't really useable at this time period. My 4 year old TiVo series 1, kicks its a$$ as far as functionality/usefulness goes. 720x480 @ 6mb/sec(DVD quality), ethernet card for pulling shows to DVD.

Just remember you get what you pay for. If the FTA goes out (which it does and will) you got nobody to b*tch at when your screen is dark (like it was last summer for two months). But then again you can always watch a bunch of Arabs for free if you move the dish over to one of the FTA birds.

My $.02 after 18 years of playing with satellite TV.

Yo ho ho!

I am thinking of installing a satelitte dish and going with star choice. Please give me any opinions you may have.

[duguayjw]

Just wondering where to get a viewsat system?
We are in Kenora.

[GrizzleyPeg]

Coolsat 8000 HD. UFC was in the clear last night.

[JeeperV6]

If you come into Wpg, just go to IC Computers, Computer Avenue, Computer Blvd. They all sell genuine Viewsats, well the Extreme & Ultras anyway, if you want the 7000 PVR, google Skyhigh Electronics, that's where I got mine from.

Insist on a genuine Viewsat, not a clone.

Just wondering where to get a viewsat system?
We are in Kenora.

[sled_head_440]

Insure you read up on the models because the clone companies make almost identical machines, with just small differences. Be very leary in a store with viewsat under $200.

[B Man]

Insure you read up on the models because the clone companies make almost identical machines, with just small differences. Be very leary in a store with viewsat under $200.

you need to check what bateries it comes with. if it has "super gaurd" batteries then its legit.

[ShoCKer]

So how did they catch you?


go with star. we had bell and they couaht us sharing networks with our family. so we swiched to star. dont get the cheap reacivers. there to slow. go with HD
just my two cents

Matt

[B Man]

http://forums.f2atv.com/showthread.php?t=132706

read before buying a FTA unit. it is a interesting read. it appears shit may be hitting the fan.

[GrizzleyPeg]

Can't read without joining the forum. Care to summarize?

http://forums.f2atv.com/showthread.php?t=132706

read before buying a FTA unit. it is a interesting read. it appears shit may be hitting the fan.

[B Man]

veiwsat is having the pants sued off them. all "fixes" will stop and there will be no support. in the huge document it stated that veiwtech,a partner with dish company 1 and dish company 2(the guys on that site do not like to say the names, so i'm not gonna, they nick named them beverly and dave) want $2500 for every receiver sold. as of now it is a civil law suit, LOL i don't know what that means. the thing is with VS and a few poeple that make the fixes is they are/were very open about it, almost cocky. and becuase of this beverly and dave could make the connection that these boxes were being used to steal TV signals. without proof of what these boxes were being used for/proof that VS was making fixes there was no evidence to go on to make the claim.

making any sense?

you should read the thread, its all like a bad soap opera.

even though every company that makes these receivers is kind of related to this, VS is the only one who is gonna get hurt bad, becuase coolsat and NORW group show no connection on any forum, but its common knowlegde that NORW makes the fixes for coolsat. sorry i read on that forum too much.

[GrizzleyPeg]

Thanks, sounds like the old lawsuits against VCR manufacturors, alleging (unsuccessfully) they were knowingly making a product to infringe on copyright. Their successful defence was that there were other legitimate uses, like time shifting of programming, which was not a copyright infringement. Not exactly the same concept, but similar. What doesn't seem right is that the manufacturors of FTA receivers are likely carefully designing their machines to allow them to be reprogrammed for theft of signals. With good reason, it greatly aids North American sales. I'd be pissed off too if I was Dish. On the other hand, they should sue their incryption provider for such shitty encryption.

[B Man]

ya, i would be pissed too. all they want to do is stop the bleeding. i could modify my bell reciever and make it a FTA, so, in a sense bell should sue themselves?

bottom line, if some one knocks on your door, quickly do a factory default and then a factory pgm and you'll be in the clear. its 100% legal to own.

[GrizzleyPeg]

Well, I guess to be totally clear on this:

FTA receivers:

Completely legal to own and use as intended
Clearly illegal to use for the purpose of stealing encrypted satellite signals

The only unanswered question is the liability of those who provide receivers knowing they are being used for theft of satellite signals, and those who assist others in doing so. You couldn't sue the makers of coat hangers because someone uses them to jimmy a car door lock open. But, you might be able to successfully sue someone who sells lock picking supplies to people not legitimately in the business.

[B Man]

ya like said before don't sweat it whats done is done, just sit back and see what happens. if theres ever big news on whats happening i can PM it to you.

[GrizzleyPeg]

Can you imagine the RCMP being able to get a search warrant for a private premises in order to determine whether a receiver had been loaded with non factory software? Highly unlikely. A retailer who loads new bins for the customer, that I could see, as its been done before.

[B Man]

Can you imagine the RCMP being able to get a search warrant for a private premises in order to determine whether a receiver had been loaded with non factory software? Highly unlikely. A retailer who loads new bins for the customer, that I could see, as its been done before.

no, i can't imagine that but when everybody that purchased a card reader a few years back got letters in the mail it was either pay it or see you in court! i'm unsure of the amount but was told that they "paid out the ass" when they got these letters.

[B Man]

VS is down with no fix :(

[03griz]

Well, I would say it's all BS, if you send a signal into my yard it's mine. Even though I pay through the nose for Bell, I have a package that started out as a 36 dollar package and I now pay over 60 for the exact same thing.......... But if I chose to decode for free that should be my right. If the neighbors sprinkler is on and the water goes over my side of the fence and waters my lawn, I don't pay him back for the water he put on my lawn.........Maybe everybody should charge bell and star choice for having there signals hit there house.....kind of like the reserve in Manitoba that is trying to get money for every MTS cell phone that is used driving through there area.........

[GrizzleyPeg]

Quit using your head to understand the law, it will only give you a headache. :hammer:

Its all about preserving profits. They make a law that says decoding scrambled signals is theft, simply to allow such a service to operate profitably. Look at music played over the radio. That's free right? The law says SOCAN can charge you for use of the copyrighted material if you make a public performance out of it, such as playing the radio in your store for background music. They are doing this exactly to the hair stylists. They want them to pay a fee to play music in their hair salons. Its all about money.

Well, I would say it's all BS, if you send a signal into my yard it's mine. Even though I pay through the nose for Bell, I have a package that started out as a 36 dollar package and I now pay over 60 for the exact same thing.......... But if I chose to decode for free that should be my right. If the neighbors sprinkler is on and the water goes over my side of the fence and waters my lawn, I don't pay him back for the water he put on my lawn.........Maybe everybody should charge bell and star choice for having there signals hit there house.....kind of like the reserve in Manitoba that is trying to get money for every MTS cell phone that is used driving through there area.........

[sled_head_440]

VS is down with no fix :(

It's been on here all day, just changed the keys and sut auto roll off , been good so far

[rbreman]

there is a fix for vs now.