Shilo Poker Derby April 16 (Sat)

[trigger222]

Just got off the phone with Chris owner of "Cecils Bar & Grill". He gave me a heads up about a derby that will be held in Shilo, April 16.
The trail will be a one way and apparently he said we have permission to run on the CFB Shilo Ranges. This means the ride is open to a vast area that is not open to the public most other times.
The ride will be about 80kms distance.
I will be contacting CFB Shilo Range Control to set up a time to begin marking the route.
The Spruce Woods Fish and Game Club will recieve half of the money raised and the other half will go to cash prizes as usual.
I'll post more as it comes, and as I set the route.
Thanks,
Paul

[barkerlakebob]

Won't be able to make this one......Scheduled to be in Edmonton.....

blb

[trigger222]

Sounds almost like "Ex Janus"....lol
Sorry to hear it, but there will be another in the Fall.
Also Carberry will have their anual derby sometime in April or May.
And me and a few other riders meet every Saturday 11am at the Shilo Inn Restraunt to ride...been doing it all winter, even a few night rides...Just gotta dress warm some days.

[wadex]

The Forman Honda race team will be there!
:rocker: :rockin:

[trigger222]

The Forman Honda race team will be there!
:rocker: :rockin:
Good, maybe we can "Convert" them to the Dark Side with a Kawi.....lol, just pullin' yer chain.
Glad to hear you guys can make it.

Will you Forman Honda Post our Derby?
If so, let me know and I'll make sure you get a Poster.

[bbertram]

Sounds awesome guys, I'll be there forsure. If you want to go on some more rides this winter on Saturday let me know and I'll join ya for one or two. There even might be some other who would like to go.

Anything special planned for this derby? Like that obstacle course, rocks, logs, etc like you hinted at last fall?

[Mooseman]

I just checked my schedule for April and I'm actually off that day. So it looks good!! :woohoo: Trigger give us a run down of the terrian. Will there be sand dunes on the run? I know there are some really great sand dunes in that area. The range has lots of them, so if you already have open range permission why not plan the route in the sand. Nacho and I went on a few last year. Lots of fun. Or will be mostly forest? Should we bring an extra sandwich along? :cheers: .
If you need a hand setting anything up, signing, etc. I would like to help out. I could even run a check point on the day if you need someone. Let me know, via PM or leave a message on my Yahoo e-mail address.


Mm

[Renegade]

Sound's like fun,will try to get the gang together.

[wild wolverine]

where abouts is shilo from wpg ?could be a blast......have derby will travel......hope i win one some day.....lol.....wild wolverine :humbs:

[miserynitro]

i would be interested as well!! me and wifey should be in!!

[wild wolverine]

now we need to just find out where this is....... :))) :)))

[wild wolverine]

just before brandon.......long haul......new area for me. have to check it out.im in ......wild wolverine........ :humbs:

[camoman]

I'm going to do my best to make it!!!

[trigger222]

WOW :D Glad to see all the support and excitment for this derby.
I'll try to answer all your questions.
First for BBertram>>
Yes, I want an obstacle course involved, but it will also need a route around it for those who don't wish to attempt it. I have to confirm it with the club that is running the event...there could be "insurance issues" :baby:
Mooseman>>> Thanks for offering your support and time...I'll let you know if there is anything you can do, first we have to see howmany "volenteers" the wildlife club can get.
Also as far as the route threw the Shilo Ranges>>> I am totally unsure where we can go there as of yet. I know it won't be "free run", as there are some impact areas nobody would want to end up in! :omg:
Range Control might limit us to an area or a few areas...or possibly even declair a route (I hope not...they'll pick something boring I'm sure).
The wildlife club is having a meeting March 25 to confirm everything for me, at that time I will have more answers.

[Maxter]

just before brandon.......long haul......new area for me. have to check it out.im in ......wild wolverine........ :humbs:
hey ww you sound like my outlaws.. Did you know it's farther from Wpg to Brandon than it is from Brandon to Wpg.? :))) :))) :)))

[explorer]

maxter
count me in on that ride. should be back in Mb. by April 10, then I have to make sure the big Honda starts and get my tires put. looking forward to my first ride for this year
"Explorer" with the mean machine

[trigger222]

just before brandon.......long haul......new area for me. have to check it out.im in ......wild wolverine........ :humbs:


Directions for WW>>>

From Wpg to Bdn
West on Trans Cnda Hwy#1.
Look for sign that says Douglas.'
Turn South (Left) to Douglas.
Follow threw town of Douglas, it twists a bit over the train tracks and turns into Hwy 340.
Follow that straight until you see an ESSO.
Turn left at Esso.
Follow that road untill you see all the ATV's and a sign that says "Cecil's Sports Bar" (right side) :welcome:

[wild wolverine]

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) april 16/05 ill be there even if i have to buy a map......... :))) :))) :))) :))) wild wolverine :humbs:

[NachoMan]

hey WW we can caravan out together. It will be a great ride....more the marier!

[wild wolverine]

cool...........lets have a blast.........wild wolverine :humbs:

[miserynitro]

i will be right behind you guys :woohoo: :woohoo: :woot: :burnout:

[Mooseman]

Did anyone else get a GPS track from last years Shilo Derby? We could use another one.
I did posted one from the Shilo Derby in the GPS track forum. If you need directions to a few good mud holes d/l it. Let me know what you think of the track.



Mm

[wild wolverine]

mmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddd...................some say mud........ah spring........wild wolverine :humbs:

[miserynitro]

well this year.... i am going to make a track... so far every ride i have made one :)... well since i got my GPS :cheers:

[wild wolverine]

its going to be a trackshare convoy........wild wolverine :burnout:

[miserynitro]

yeah it looks kind of kool with a thousand trycks driving in a row...

[KODIAK ARREST]

Hey just wondering: :confused3 If any bodys going to the shilo derby and has some extra room on their trailer and vehicle. :thnx: lets see if we can load up trucks and trailers to be more efficient. :humbs: Splitting gas 3 or four ways is a lot cheaper than having a lot of trucks on the highway with one guy in it. If any body has room for me and my kodiak 400 let me know! :cool2: I have a trailer i can put my quad on if someone doesnt mind pulling it? But a larger trailer would be better! Its a 2 hour drive there and a 2 hour drive back. That equals a lot of fuel!!! :eek: Let me know if this is something we should consider? :thnx: I think we should try to get as many people together as possible. Hey Big Brute----you in? :jump:

[Maxter]

Did anyone else get a GPS track from last years Shilo Derby? We could use another one.
I did posted one from the Shilo Derby in the GPS track forum. If you need directions to a few good mud holes d/l it. Let me know what you think of the track.Mm
Hey Mm there is another track for this area posted under GPS Tracks titled Sprucewoods - Camp Hughes / Shilo which can be found at this thread http://www.trackshare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1700 It contains the shilo derby area as well as the Camp hughes (south) area which is across the marsh (east) from the Shilo derby area. The area that is missing are tracks from last years Carbury derby which extended into the military bases' restricted zone. The same zone that Trigger222 is talking about but I expect he will be taking us onto a differnt part of the range.. These tracks contain OziEplorer as well as mapsouce files. which ever turns your crank man.

[Maxter]

hey kodiakArrest I know you changed your avatar to the 4runner just to taunt me, cause you know they are writting off my beloved 4runner. How cruel dude :))) :))) :))) careful or you might have to start sharing yours :1oops: :offtopic:

[miserynitro]

I agree with Kodiak... i too have a big truck... and only 1 machine... i don't have a trailer... but if i had $1500... i would buy a 2 place ATV trailer... anyways... if worst comes to worse i could pull your trailer... and we could go... or does anybody have a car hauling trailer?? we could fit like 4 machines on there!!!...

[Mooseman]

I will confirm this with Nachobiscuit. We may have enough room for one more quad. I'll get back to you.
Maxtor- thanks for the track. I will see if my GPS software can handle the maps you're talking about.

Mm

:leaving:

[Badda Bing]

Just wondering what the cost would be to rent a large trailer from U Haul for the trip?

[Snowman]

this all is pretty far in the future, but it sounds REAL good
im probably in, I'd like to see some terrain out that way
Ive got a truck that can pull, and i can get my hands on a trailer for four
so i can haul 5 all together, only thing is im way out south.

[Mooseman]

Just wondering what the cost would be to rent a large trailer from U Haul for the trip?

Before you rent anything I can easily get a 3-4 quad trailer from my neighbour. So let me know what you want to do, and if we have enough peeps I'll simply borrow it from him.

Mooseman

[wild wolverine]

look out shilo here comes the trackshare crew...........man are we going to have fun.............wild wolverine :burnout: :humbs:

[miserynitro]

it doesn't matter to me, but i will pair up with anybody that wants to, and i am willing to either pull a trailer, or jump in with someone else and pitch in for gas and stuff... it would be me and wifey...

So which trackshare guys are in?? Are we going to waving these new flags?

[trigger222]

Just wondering what the cost would be to rent a large trailer from U Haul for the trip?

Check with your dealership also. Sometimes they'll let you borrow, or low rent one of their trailers if you're on good terms with them.
I'm very happy to see all the folks that want to ride the derby and look forward to meeting you all, and seeing some of the old faces again :D
Like I said before, I'll have all the information for this derby once the "Club" has their meeting.

[straight pipe]

hmm shilo. sounds like a possibility. down hwy 340 eh!! that's where i bought my 69 b5 blue dart, later... a large buck decided to end his life , and used my baby for his evil plans.....there i go starting to cry again....ohh this is painfull.

[trigger222]

Just got threw with the Spruce Woods Wildlife club meeting.
It's confermed the CFB Shilo ranges are open.
Chris and I have to contact the range Officer to confirm the area we can ride or the prescribed safe route.
Once I meet with him next Thursday I'll post the info.
I will try my damnedest to mark the whole route with GPS and have maps printed off for the derby, this will make it easier for some to find their way.
Someone was supposed to take care of making route signs, but it hasn't been done yet, I'll try to get that done in time so nobody will have to try and follow the "orange" hunters ribbon.
I only ask one thing of all people coming to the Shilo Poker Derby.
"When you're on the CFB Shilo ranges, please stay on the route for 2 reasons:
1> They are having a problem with other ATV'ers in the area sneeking onto the ranges to ride...if you're caught off the prescribed route they might not let us back on next time we have a Poker Derby.
2> It's dangerous to go off the perscribed route in some areas. CFB Shilo is a military training area for the Artillery, Infantry and Armoured Regiments, although the military tries to keep track of "unexploded ordinance" there is still a risk of running into something you don't want to. This is because the training area has been used extensively threw WWll, and back then they didn't really keep track of "unexploded ordinance"! Please stay on the route, and don't pick up anything shiny for souveniers, you could be injured seriously!
Now after saying all of that, "Who still want's to ride?"
Don't worry, it is safe along the perscribed route and in most areas of the ranges, but I'd rather see everyone safe and having fun so we can do it again next time.

[wild wolverine]

im in wild wolverine.........man i cant wait........spring fever has hit......wheres the mud....... :jump: :woohoo: :jump: :woohoo:

[miserynitro]

Hey wild..... is that the ONLY thing on your mind ? :burnout: ...... we are going to find the biggest mud pit for you... and throw you in :):) hahahahaa

[wild wolverine]

cool...... :woohoo: :woohoo: some go around the mud hole and then some go straight down the middle.......lol......ita an addiction.......remember if you are not gettin stuck. you are not tryin hard enough.......wild wolverine :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

[NachoMan]

Im with you WW right though the middle..........more mud the better and if there is 4 feet of water ontop the better it is...Honda submarine fleet waiting for the spring thaw

[NachoMan]

Hey Trigger 222, thank you for all your hard work in getting the base open and setting up the derby . we all appriciate it.
And crew lets please respect the base and Stay on the trails.

[trigger222]

Hey Trigger 222, thank you for all your hard work in getting the base open and setting up the derby . we all appriciate it.
And crew lets please respect the base and Stay on the trails.

Well it really isn't all my hard work, I can't take credit for it.
Chris, owner of Cecils Sports Bar did most of the work setting it up and getting permission.
I just handle the meetings and mark the trails.
Like I said before, I'll know more after the meeting with range control.
Neither of us know exactly where we can go on the ranges as of yet, until we talk to the "range boss".

[bluegriz]

hey kodiak arrest .today is hte day I saw you at spring hill when those a-holes would not help you get unstuck. well when I went to leave the yellow zr2 buuried his truck and the silver xterra went to pull him out and buried his truck .did I stop and help pull them out ? not bloody likely. if they can't help someone else screw them too....I am probably in as well and I will talk to the other springfield sprocket guys.my bluegriz is definetly hungry for some deep ass mud.

[optima23]

Im in for the shilo derby..... yeah quad time.... I wanna break something.... :jack:

[trigger222]

:woohoo: Im in for the shilo derby..... yeah quad time.... I wanna break something.... :jack:

All the way from Thompson?
Man you must love to ride.
I hope it's your most enjoyable trip ever...and I'll do my best to make sure it's worth the ride...Infact I want this Derby route to be the best anyone has done in MB.
I can't say the whole country, because I've been on some "kick sss" derbs down east, and I hear that the foot hills of AB is something else too.

Infact we're planning a ride in the "foothills" of AB in August 06...maybe 05 if everyone can get their leave at the same time.
I'll post more on that when we sit and have coffee to talk about it, and I'd love to see the whole "trakshr" crew come....all flyin' their flags. :welcome:

[jeepster]

ahh he's cheatin. he's not really in Thompson right now in favt he was riding at Camp Highes last weekend.

[trigger222]

ahh he's cheatin. he's not really in Thompson right now in favt he was riding at Camp Highes last weekend.


LOL...."comuters", and, "I was born there", :leaving: don't count.....lol

[optima23]

well I am usually from thompson I just happen to be going to red river cc for 10 weeks

[camobomb]

:cool2: I will be attending, FOR SURE

[Nimbus2K]

Explorer, remember, you have to first do some real verk for a change when you get back before you get to go and play! Make yourself useful. You've been chasing your balls (base, golf, tennis, etc.) all over da place! Now its time to do some verk! Re Shilo Derby, my buddy Hoser (wit da Griz, from SA) and anudder bum wit da same first name as u want to come to dis derby (has new 400 Bombi double up). And he is older than you! Holy dung! I tink I be going too.

[Mooseman]

Hey Trigger give us an update on the Shilo Derby??

Mm
:jump:

[trigger222]

Hey Trigger give us an update on the Shilo Derby??

Mm
:jump:

OK, here it is.
Shilo Range control hasn't responded yet to your "memo" to enter the Shilo Ranges, however, we assume they will give us the "go" tomorrow when the Range Boss returns from leave.
The trail is being marked tomorrow evening, and will consist of some new trails that have been made on Sunday.
The trails are technical with a few logs to climb, sport atv's may have a challenge.
Also don't forget that these new trails are "new"....there is a lot of shrubs pushed down, and you should wear a long sleeve shirt, and goggles to protect yourself.
We also will enter the swamp route, it is very messy after the fast winter melt....get out your rain gear! :woot:
There will also be some ditch riding to get to another area along the Assiniboine River Wildlife Coridoor.
Along this route will be a "Death Drop". There will be an alternate route for those without experience, or ATV's unable to handle the mud at the bottom of the drop.
The "Death Drop" is a steep decent to a small valley that is almost total mud and bog.
I don't recommend it for anyone without 4X4 and lots of experience.
It's only about a 20ft drop, and at then about 100ft to the other side, but it could take about 2 hours to get threw...infact it has taken a goup of us about that long...the more that go threw it the worse it gets.
People can park on the other side and watch the happenings if they wish.
It's a short ride on the "sissy" route to get there...lol.
But seriously, I've been down there, and if 20 others were already threw I wouldn't go at all, because it would be too chewed up.
I really hope you all enjoy it, we worked hard at making the route long, and exciting, with a little bit of everything for everyone.
Also, if anyone is interested, a group of us will be going to "Duck Mtn" on June 29th to July 4th 2005.
I no longer have internet access at my home, and have to log on at my friends home...so give me time to respond.
Thanks
Paul

[rmkcac700]

Ill be there, will be there with the C and C Rentals Trailer, Want to sea some real product, stop by, or if not for the product, stop and say hi.


Looking for the mud, bring extra fuel, Rice lake awaits....

[jeepster]

are we meeting for breaky first? Smitty's at what say 8:00am.

[miserynitro]

so what time are we meeting at this derby guys?? hey Nacho and Mooseman... are we going to follow you out? lets DO THIS!!!

[trigger222]

:welcome:
The derby starts I believe at 10 or 11 am.
I know that (the start point) Cecil's Bar & Grill will be having a breakfast buffet on for $6.00.
Coffee, scrambled eggs, hashbrowns, coffee etc.
Also gas in this area is 92.5 cents/litre right now.
There will also be gas available for purchase half way threw the race at one of the check stops. Probably about $1.00/litre....that's not bad since the price in some places of MB is over a buck.
From what I hear gas is $1.02/ltr in Wpg (can anyone conferm this?)...if it's true you guys might want to bring your "Jerry Cans" and fill up.
Hope to see ya'll there.

[miserynitro]

gas was 89.4 around here this afternoon.... thats not including the 2.5 cents off...

[NachoMan]

so what time are we meeting at this derby guys?? hey Nacho and Mooseman... are we going to follow you out? lets DO THIS!!!
Lets ride!...............Trackshare style.......we are planing on being there for around 10:00am..............if there is enough daylite left maybe we will go play for awhile or redo some sections of the derby.
Check your pm bud

[Mooseman]

Sounds good Nachobiscuit. Let's meet the others at Cecil's at about 9:30 am to 10:00 am. That's 09:30-10:00 hrs (Zulu minus 6) for the military types.
Thanks again Trigger for taking the lead on this Derby. I know you have put allot of work into it and there will be many people that will benefit from this first ride of Spring. Thanks so much!!!
Again if you need a hand signing or some-one to keep an eye on things I'm available.
Secondly, I would like to talk to you about that trip out to Alberta. I have leave at the same time. It maybe a good plan to check it out! Foot hills could be an awsome ride.

:leaving:
Mm

[miserynitro]

hey isn't GMT(greenwich mean time) - 6??? same thing i guess :):)

[explorer]

maxter
can we set up a time to meet, I will be coming to brandon on friday and staying with my son. So I,ll leave at the same time as you guys and hopefully ride with you
I'm getting a set of mudlites from vinnie put on this week, so hopefully the rincon can keep up Ha ha
Explorer

[optima23]

smitty's at 8 am in brandon is good for me jeepster.. what about you bb.... whos in for brandon breaky

[trigger222]

Sounds good Moose man.
I'll look around for you.
We still didn't get word from Range Control for the confirmed route yet, but I worked on an alternate lastnight, just incase they don't come threw for us.

[bbertram]

smitty's at 8 am in brandon is good for me jeepster.. what about you bb.... whos in for brandon breaky


Sounds like a plan. I want to ride with as many trackshare members as possible. Is there a plan to meet somewhere after breakfast?

[optima23]

yep jeepster mentioned smitt's for 8 trigger mention the place in shilo but it might be packed i dont know.... maxter you coming.. are you in for breaky in brandon.. maybe a new place??

[bbertram]

If you don't want to do Smittys we can always hit up Humptys. They have a very filling Pan Scrambler breakfast, should be good for the whole day.

I hope to have my flag pole and flag by the derby. So if we eat early, hit the derby early and park our quads at cecils with the flags the trackshare gang will know where to find us. Then once we think everyone is there we can move out.

I'm sure there won't be enough parking at cecils for everyone, we should have a trackshare parking spot, lol. Have a sign on the road saying, "Trackshare members park here."

[polaris_600]

You have an awesome website. Great pics to share with everyone.

[miserynitro]

hey guys sorry we can't join you for breakfast.... just don't want to leave for brandon at 6:30 in the morning :)

[NachoMan]

Sounds like a plan. I want to ride with as many trackshare members as possible. Is there a plan to meet somewhere after breakfast?
we have a caravan of TS members coming their from Wpg, we will be at cecils around 10:00am with Trackshare flags for people to buy.look forward to riding with u guys again.

[bbertram]

If we had poles for those flags it would be even better! We'll meet you there at 10:00 am.

[NachoMan]

If we had poles for those flags it would be even better! We'll meet you there at 10:00 am.
hey bud go to radio shack or a cb antena store for the pole.....have it mounted on quad, when we get there tye rape the flag on and u are good to go :leaving:

[optima23]

humpty's would be good.... I have to check a few things on the bike friday night but all is good....

[camoman]

Not sure if I will make it for Breakfast but looks like me EFI MARK and I will be there around 10am for the derby..

[QUADZILLA]

Not sure if I will make it for Breakfast but looks like me EFI MARK and I will be there around 10am for the derby..
Hey Camo, got room for another brotha ..... I thinks I'm comin' too!

[miserynitro]

well if we had a bigger trailer... since i am going with outie, mine is in the box and outie has a traielr for 2 but his 2 are on it... if we had a 3 place trailer we could do it!!

[camoman]

Hey Camo, got room for another brotha ..... I thinks I'm comin' too!

Sure thing brotha from anotha motha

[QUADZILLA]

Thanx Bra! :burnout:

[trigger222]

If you guys want a "TS Parking" area, just go past Cecil's when you hit CFB Shilo, there will be a parking area on the left side of the Spruce Treeline just before the right turn.
Make that the trackshare parking so we know where to find us all.
It's ok to park there...lots of people use it as a place to park their horse trailers when they go riding.

[miserynitro]

Kool........ :friday: :banana: :welcome:

[NachoMan]

Excellent......glad u guys are comming, looking forward to seeing u guys ....and the new rides!

[Mooseman]

If you guys want a "TS Parking" area, just go past Cecil's when you hit CFB Shilo, there will be a parking area on the left side of the Spruce Treeline just before the right turn.
Make that the trackshare parking so we know where to find us all.
It's ok to park there...lots of people use it as a place to park their horse trailers when they go riding.

Hey Trigg, is that near the turn off to the back gate, near the old WW-2 guns?

:leaving:
Mm

[bbertram]

Yah, I'm not sure where you mean. I'm not a regular to the area.

[jeepster]

No I'm Assuming He Means Just Past Cecil's In Sprucewoods Right About Where The Old Base Security Shack Was. Right After That You Make A Sharp Right Into The Base.

[bbertram]

So long as someone knows where to go. The first one on the scene make sure we can see the trackshare flag, that way its easy for the rest of the people. We might need a field for all of us, lol.

[jeepster]

so breaky at humpty's at 8:00 am. we can eat and be at cecil's by 9:30.

[Maxter]

:sorry: can't make breaky but will be at the TS parking lot aprox. 9:30 see you all there. :woohoo: :woohoo:

Explorer check your pm

[Mooseman]

So long as someone knows where to go. The first one on the scene make sure we can see the trackshare flag, that way its easy for the rest of the people. We might need a field for all of us, lol.

I'll PM you my cell number give me a call if you can't find the parking spot.

Mm
:drool:

[JohnDeereMan]

So would it be worth it to drive 3 hours for this derby or what?

is it a good ride? how many ppl usually enter?

[jeepster]

always going to be worth it

[trigger222]

:leaving: Moose you're reffering to the south gate, I'm talking about the north gate just past Cecil's, where the old gaurd shack used to be.
It will be perfect for parking, and only locals know they can use it, so it shouldn't get packed up.

Also, range control dropped out proposed route for the derby, so the ranges are off limits...Sorry
The problem with it was, as you know Mooseman the military is offline quite a bit, anyway, we had permission from the previous Range Capt and Sgt Maj, they said..."just submit it in writting a week before the Derby.
Well, ofcourse as sure as I'm sitting here....those two got posted out this summer and replaced by two others.
The new Range Capt and Sgt Maj won't let our proposal fly.
There are ofcourse other ways we can try to get permission onto the ranges, but they will take time...something we don't have right now.
But I did prepare for this and make an alternate route, and it will be just as enjoyable I'm sure.
Also, we are going to submit a "memo" to the base ops in writing for permission to enter the ranges on our next derby, we will work out a date and everything, and have it signed by the base CO...that way we will get the ranges come "Hell or High Water"!...unless of course some military emergency takes presidence over our derby.
The route will have some ditch driving...sorry, there is no other way to get to the nice spots to ride without taking a ditch or the Shilo Ranges....No ranges means we must "ditch dog it"!
But it will be worth it...trust me...also I'm told the folks with Sport ATV's enjoy ditch driving...so that means something for everyone.
NOTE: Folks with the Sport ATV's, please don't curse me when you come to the rough technical areas of the course..just grit your teeth and bear it.

[bbertram]

Sounds like its going to be one great ride. I can't wait to experience this derby. Thanks for the hard work Trigger222, I'm sure everyone at trackshare appeciates it, along with everyone else who helped out.

[bbertram]

So would it be worth it to drive 3 hours for this derby or what?

is it a good ride? how many ppl usually enter?


It'll be a blast man, come out and enjoy yourself. Maybe we can have a trackshare dinner after? Like last time, that was nice.

[bbertram]

so breaky at humpty's at 8:00 am. we can eat and be at cecil's by 9:30.


yeppers!!!

[trigger222]

This will help those of you who have MapSource (Garmin) to find the parking area.
The route on here might be the last leg of the Derby, but It's going to be changed a bit tomorrow, so don't use it to find your way...lol
The main thing is it will help you understand where the TrackShare Parking area is.
Don't take the precise grid, I "eyeballed" it on the program.
Hope this works

[wild wolverine]

man.....i was looking forward to cfb shilo range......lol......can we bribe them? nacho has nachos ........lol.....i will give them a trackshare flag......ok 2 of them seeing there is 2 dudes with the power.......we still going to have a blast......maybe next time.......cant wait.....lol.....wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[trigger222]

man.....i was looking forward to cfb shilo range......lol......can we bribe them? nacho has nachos ........lol.....i will give them a trackshare flag......ok 2 of them seeing there is 2 dudes with the power.......we still going to have a blast......maybe next time.......cant wait.....lol.....wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:


Yeah, I know...I'm really disappointed too, I'm also a bit p'sd off, because I gave my word it would happen and now I have to go back on it.
It doen't make me look good when people pull crap like that, but that is the way the military works.
If you really want to go onto the ranges, I believe that the Carberry Poker Derby on 24 April has permission to enter area 10, but that's just rumour that I got that from, I can't confirm it.
Hey, speaking of the "TrackShare" Flags:
>Are they ready yet?
>How can I get one?
Thx

[wild wolverine]

if you want one let me know.....i can bring you one......wild wolverine......just pm me....thanks.....and hey you tried........try the nachos they mite work........nacho its for a good cause....lol..... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Maxter]

If you really want to go onto the ranges, I believe that the Carberry Poker Derby on 24 April has permission to enter area 10, but that's just rumour that I got that from, I can't confirm it.
Thx

Ran into Merlin who is the Carbury derby organizer the other day while on the trail and Carbury will NOT be going into area 10 either this year. So that means that the big mud hole from last year won't be. I understand that there will some bog and mud though.

[wild wolverine]

did shilo get much rain?........lots of mud?.......whats trail conditions like?.......chest waders ready to go.......lol......should be a blast.....wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[NachoMan]

did shilo get much rain?........lots of mud?.......whats trail conditions like?.......chest waders ready to go.......lol......should be a blast.....wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:
Yeh....any DEEP water holes to play in trigger?

[miserynitro]

well i don't have chest waders.... but i am bringing my rain gear.... and i don't think wifey wants to swim :)

[wild wolverine]

i use to use just rain gear......i got tired of getting soaked first mud hole water over boots .....dam......wet all day........wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Mooseman]

Don't worry about chest waders just bring a bathing suit and a bar of soap.

:bad:

Mm

[miserynitro]

hahahaha......... BUT NO SPEEDO's!!! hahahaha

[Mooseman]

I heard about someone who wore a Speedo down south during his vacation. Apparently he badly sun-burnt the top of his Twinkie!


Mm
:)))

[trigger222]

Weather conditions here:
>The fast melt: This made the swamp that was done last year very wet, but we can get threw it. Remember the mud holes off the derby trail, well, they look like rivers right now...That'll be deep for you Nacho....I wouldn't recommend going there yet. Remember, "It's a floating bog, that's like a grass sod floating ontop of a lake...if you go far off the trails and break threw the bog, you could end up walking home if you're lucky!
>Rain: We had rain and damp conditions since Monday.
>Trail Condition: The trails are still quite good. They are slightly slick in the treed area, the sand on the trails is dry, small puddles on the ditches. The swamp is quite wet and lots of deep mud holes, always an easy way around them except for the turn at the "Bull Rushes"...It's balls deep in mud, and the only way around it is thew the Bullrushes, but that's deep water so take your time and kneel on the seat if you don't want to get wet.
If you take your time and crawl threw you shouldn't even get very muddy.
In the forest I will be using some of the old route because it was a nice ride and puts on some good K's.
The new trails have a lot of log climbing and you might still have to push some "sapplings" (small trees and bush) down until the path opens up after a few riders. These trails are totally new. We started one this winter and the other one was started on Saturday.
I think most will really like the new trails because they require a rider to think, test and improve their skills. They are slow speed trails (because they're new and still have growth over them), but it's nice just to bulldozer threw and see what they can climb over, rather than just tackle mud.
When the trail ride is over, I'd appreciate any comments on the trail...Good or Bad. So I can work on improving things for the next one.
Even if you guys think I should get out there with and axe and trim down those shrubs...let me know.

[miserynitro]

well the water part doesn't sound too good for double riders... also are sport quads going to make it through seat high water if they don't go through the mud at the bull rushes??

[Honda_chick]

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :cool2: :woot: :woot:
This is goona be good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess will need the duck tape for this one!!! :burnout:
Thanks Trigger222 for the trail report!!

[trigger222]

well the water part doesn't sound too good for double riders... also are sport quads going to make it through seat high water if they don't go through the mud at the bull rushes??

Sport quads should be alright if they don't spin the wheels too much when going threw the water.
The water is not quite at the top of my tires, except at water holes, but there's ways around them.
The sport quads can even make it over the logs, but the might have trouble.
I wouldn't worry, last year a sport quad came with us to mark the swamp trail, and he had no trouble.

[miserynitro]

i am not too worried, just that i am double riding, and i don't want one of use to walk through deep mud and stuff just to get threw, unless i try to be stupid :)

[trigger222]

i am not too worried, just that i am double riding, and i don't want one of use to walk through deep mud and stuff just to get threw, unless i try to be stupid :)

I understand. Bones did it double up when we marked it, and he had no problems....His passenger didn't look too bad coinsidering he hit every hole wide out. So I guess if you drive normally you and your passenger will be fine.
I might be doing the derby double up also, so I can see your consern.

[OUTLANDISH]

Can you please let us know the distance of the ride.......30-40kms.....70-80kms..........blah blah blah........thanks.

[Xxploder400]

well i don't have chest waders.... but i am bringing my rain gear.... and i don't think wifey wants to swim :)

Hey Misery...I just picked up a pair. 64 Bucks at SIR quite stylish...no hot pink though...sorry dude!!!! :banana: :1poke: :1poke:

[miserynitro]

:omg: Oh come on... NO PINK!! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:


hahahaha maybe i will be going there after work tomorrow :):) have to go and pick a few items, like goggles and such anyways....

[trigger222]

Can you please let us know the distance of the ride.......30-40kms.....70-80kms..........blah blah blah........thanks.

I haven't completed all the trail marking, but it should work out to about 70km.
Chris Drover (owner of Cecils) said he wants to have gas available for sale at the half point....probably 1buck/ltr.

[Sledman]

Whre is the starting point and when ? Look forward to trying the Outie in the mud and water!

[NachoMan]

Hey Misery...I just picked up a pair. 64 Bucks at SIR quite stylish...no hot pink though...sorry dude!!!! :banana: :1poke: :1poke:
they are on sale till tomorrow at cdn tire for $59

[trigger222]

Whre is the starting point and when ? Look forward to trying the Outie in the mud and water!

Start/Finish Point> Cecil's Bar & Grill, by the North Gate of CFB Shilo. (20 minutes East of Brandon, 14Km's South of TransCanada Highway 1 at the Douglas Exit, 1.5 hours West of Winnipeg.
Start/End time> 10am-5pm
Any questions that I can't answer or don't respond to on here fast enough can be answered by Chris Drover at Cecil's Bar & Grill (204) 763-8856.

[wild wolverine]

lets get it on.......going to be a good wet day.......lol.......wild wolverine........ :woohoo: :woohoo:

[miserynitro]

well i guess i now have to go to CANADIAN TIRE!!! hahhahahaha thanks DUDE!!!

[Mooseman]

Hey Trigger:
When is your official retirement day,or FREEDOM DAY!! I have a good idea. :leaving: D.E.R.B.Y time!!!

Mm :woohoo:

[trigger222]

Hey Trigger:
When is your official retirement day,or FREEDOM DAY!! I have a good idea. :leaving: D.E.R.B.Y time!!!

Mm :woohoo:

:woohoo: Official Retirement day is July 10 2005 :leaving: .That'll give me an 18 year pension...that would work out to about $2500.00/month including my Vetrans Pension, not a bad amout if I also work another job...let's face it I'm only 35 yrs old...lot's of time to make money.
Some people are almost disgusted with me when I tell them howmuch I'll be making from my pension, and they say..."Damn, I wish I did it the way you did", all I have to say to them is, "I joined when I was 17yrs old, the military robbed me of my youth, I was put infront of evil people with weapons and told to hold my ground, I've seen things that would rot the eyes out of a wolf, and I have more faces to carry around in my head than I care too!" I don't think it's all strawberries and cream.

With that said and done, we finally finished marking all the trails for the poker run.
I did the North section with Kris and Bill ( he just bought a Brute 650 and wanted to try it out), and Chris did the South section with Jason.
I used my GPS, but Chris didn't have one, so on the map that I'm attaching, just remember that the South Zone (that is marked with "red" route) is eye balled on the computer since he couldn't GPS the track there.
The North Zone tracks are GPS accurate however.
Bill will be working a check stop and will have his Brute 650 and his sons 360 with them, so if anyone wants to get a good look at the new 650 you're more than welcome to take a look, or just pop in and tell him thanks for his hard work every year to help set up the derby and man a check stop.

[Mooseman]

I hear ya. Most people say wow that's pretty good money, but I say "I would rather have my health back"!
Don't let the bad stuff ruin the good stuff in life. There's allot of crap out there, but we still live in a pretty good country! We both can say it's pretty good here in Kanuck-land because we've seen other countries that aren't anywhere near as good. As a matter of fact I can say it's the best I have ever seen. Right,Trigger!
Where are you going to retire? Here in sunny Manitoba?

Do you need a hand with anything for the Derby? I don't mind pitching in.

Mooseman

[Maxter]

Thanks for posting the map trigger. It looks like the same route taken during last falls derby. Is there much difference from that derby?

[trigger222]

Thanks for posting the map trigger. It looks like the same route taken during last falls derby. Is there much difference from that derby?


You're right MooseMan, it is the best Country in the World and people don't appreciate it enough untill they've been to others for more than a couple of week visits.
And Yep, I'm staying in the Shilo area, it's my home now and I really enjoy it out here. Good hunting and fishing, and there's employment to be found.

Maxter, the map isn't all the same as last year, infact there are only 4 trails that we are overlapping....It looks almost the same because there are so many trails that are adjacent to the ones we're using.
Also the fall run didn't include going south down the wildlife area along the Assiniboine River, and the new trails will be a nice change from flat out riding, they give you more a feeling of "exploring" because they aren't beat down to a perfect path.
You have no choice but to take your time because of "technical turns" between trees, narrow paths, and logs that must be climbed.
We felt that there are alot of people that would enjoy the slower technical asspect rather than just testing the power of their ATV againt mud.
Plus these routes will give "novice" riders a change to build confidence without a great degree of being injured.

[Maxter]

sounds good, Looking forward to being there. Thanks for all the work in organizing this derby so we all can play.

[trigger222]

sounds good, Looking forward to being there. Thanks for all the work in organizing this derby so we all can play.

You're quite welcome, besides I have so much fun doing it.
I really appreciate it when others can enjoy it.

[miserynitro]

Well the quad got a few accessories...Rear Foot pegs ( THANKS VINNIE )... and some WRONG fender Extenders... But yamaha is doing their VERY best to fix that problem... got some chest waders.... too bad the machine wasn't snorkled yet... because then the kodiak would take on some of the deep stuff... to see if the Zillas would pull through!!! anyways I CAN'T WAIT TILL TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :leaving: :woot: :woohoo: :leaving: :woot: :woohoo: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[bobsled]

Thanks Trigger for all the info, was at Shilo last year and I am looking forward to this year! There is app 10 of us heading down to Shilo for sat look forward to meeting all the Trackshare folks. Come say hello will be on the John Deere trail buck with 2 up seat and a orange bow saw on the back bumper(only way to tell my from the other 3 trail bucks with me). Have a great ride everyone!
Bobsled

[rmkcac700]

theres about 15 of my group going out there, probly be the loudest bunch of quads out there, most call us the rappack. Stop in and say hi, Cand C Rentals trailer, or loud group stuck in the mud. later fellas see ya tomorrow.

[bbertram]

I think there are going to be alot of quads, hehe. I'm going to bring an extra video tape.

[trigger222]

There will be alot of quads there, we're expecting somewhere around 2-3 hundred! :jump:
I'll try to look for all you guys and stop by and say Hi.
I'll be on my good ol P360, it'll be the only 360 with a modified 2.5 inch muffler pipe, and I'll be riding with 2 other P360's, 2 P700's and some P650's, just pretty much look for the Kawi Klan stopped on the side of the route having a break :beer3:

[Mooseman]

There will be alot of quads there, we're expecting somewhere around 2-3 hundred! :jump:
I'll try to look for all you guys and stop by and say Hi.
I'll be on my good ol P360, it'll be the only 360 with a modified 2.5 inch muffler pipe, and I'll be riding with 2 other P360's, 2 P700's and some P650's, just pretty much look for the Kawi Klan stopped on the side of the route having a break :beer3: :burnout:

Hey Trigger I would like to take time to say HI, if you have moment!
If you see me first drop over! I'll keep an eye out for you!


Mooseman (Bruce)
04 Green Kawi 700
:burnout:

[optima23]

hey brent bertam... is it the humpty's on the trans canada..... and we siad 8 right just making sure

[bbertram]

Humpty's on transcanada 8 am. See ya there.

[Snowman]

TS parking lot at 10 - cya ALL there !!! WOOT !

[miserynitro]

So mooseman and nacho and Wild Wolverine... you guys still trailering it out there? am i still going to follow you guys out.... Big Brute, you too? i jsut want to make sure i follow someone, that knows where they are going :) :woot:

[wild wolverine]

man are we going to have fun.........wild wolverine....... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[OUTLANDISH]

Hey......ya if you guys want to meet us where i saw you when we went fishing then we can go from there......just west of the assiniboine..........8 ish......

[mailman]

Have a blast guys, take LOT'S of pics!

[miserynitro]

ok, by my calculations, we will probably be just past the perimiter on HWY 1 at about 8:00 ish... if you drive slow(not sure if cops know how to do that though :hide: )... we will catch up!

[OUTLANDISH]

k no troubles........my brother is driving........he doesnt trust me.........imagine that. :banana:

[wild wolverine]

what ........no mailman?.......thought the mail must go through?.........sorry you can not join us.......its going to be a blast.........wild wolverine :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Snowman]

:jump: :jump: :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))
I've seen you drive !
only quad of course.
cant say i blame him !

[OUTLANDISH]

yes i would have to agree......im not much lighter with the vehicles either........but i clame im just a victim of my job..........we dont do 50kms very often..........we are supposed to be responding to emergencies................thats my story,.

[Snowman]

and sticken to it - im with FIRE , so i use the same excuse - but i learned my habits is Alberta

[OUTLANDISH]

K well thats it for this guy......see you all in the morning........every one have a safe drive to get there and while there...................oh and please buy lots of hands.....................makes the pot bigger for me to win.........he he.

[optima23]

speeding is no good.. you get tickets from those vehicles sitting on the side of the road in winnipeg.... damn things

[trigger222]

:burnout:

Hey Trigger I would like to take time to say HI, if you have moment!
If you see me first drop over! I'll keep an eye out for you!


Mooseman (Bruce)
04 Green Kawi 700
:burnout:

No problem man, I'll be hanging around till about 1030 or 1100.

[jeepster]

I Dont Know How You Lose 20-30 Quads But I Did It Today. One Minute You All Were There The Next Gone. I Thought Maybe You All Had Gotten Tired Of The Dust And Headed Back For The Mud So After Looking Around That Is What I Did. Went Thru The Bush Trail And Down To The Swamp. Rode Thru That Gumbo Down By The Check Point(half-ton Truck). Only One Thing To Say-------mudzillas Rock------ Easily The Best Tire There. Drove Thru Everthing And Did It With A Touch Of Class. None Of This Wide Open And Bouncing All Over The Place. Could Actually Pick And Choose A Line Thru. A Couple Of The Guys I Ended Up Riding In The Mud With Couldn't Believe The Difference The Tire Made.

[miserynitro]

Well, today.. we actually managed to stick with most of the group... we had fun...if it wasn't for the dust... it would have been great!

[Xxploder400]

I had a great time!!!! The dust got a little old but the MUDDDDD :drool: sure made up for it!!! Did everyone eventually find their way out of there???? Or do we have to send a search party in? With an emergency beer supply that is! :beer3: :beer3:

[jeepster]

when i was in there there was a couple of sport bikes not having any fun. how did your buddy on his 2x4 make out?

[OUTLANDISH]

Well today was a good day..........(dusty).....but all in all the mud was fun and we got to explore some new country.......................Oh and did everyone see those two new 800 poos at the LAST checkstop.........they must of been parked there by the dealer to advertise.......they were so clean...................that or it was a bunch of panzy's driving them.............................................. ..................

[Badda Bing]

Thanks to the search party that came in for my wife and I I must say the route was not very clear to a lot of us.
Seems that there were to many orange markers and we kept on going in circles.
I know I will have a nightmare tonight and wake up screaming like a mouse in a maze that can't find his way out.
All in all it was a good time.

[jeepster]

two different times i came to an arrow that was pointing either the way i just came or straight into bush. once i remember where the swamp was i was ok.

[mudnut]

Well the best part of the day was meeting most of you TS guys & gals. The dust wasn't much fun, & if I wanted to drive on the roads I would have taken my truck. But all in all it was fun riding with you all today. And thanks for the mud baptism Bbertram...LOL You guys are a hoot.

[Xxploder400]

He did OK he definately had a good time! I made sure to do a couple laps around him before I gave him a tug. There was that one section after the hole where I met you, that was just slew and I had to hook up to him and drag him through...but besides that he did pretty darn good.

[QUOTE=jeepster]when i was in there there was a couple of sport bikes not having any fun. how did your buddy on his 2x4 make out

[camoman]

Thanks to the search party that came in for my wife and I I must say the route was not very clear to a lot of us.
Seems that there were to many orange markers and we kept on going in circles.
I know I will have a nightmare tonight and wake up screaming like a mouse in a maze that can't find his way out.
All in all it was a good time.

No proib.. tell you the truth we didnt wern't clear on where to go either.. if it wasn;t for our GPS's we might still be there.. The trail was very poorly marked :( which is a big risk when you have that many quads out there.

[camoman]

Well the best part of the day was meeting most of you TS guys & gals. The dust wasn't much fun, & if I wanted to drive on the roads I would have taken my truck. But all in all it was fun riding with you all today. And thanks for the mud baptism Bbertram...LOL You guys are a hoot.

Well put.. I think the best part of the day for me too was meeting everyone and ridding with the TrackShare Gang!

:humbs:

[jeepster]

did you guys take that "trail" thru the bush, the one with all the logs and the "little" mud holes in it. most of the trees were too close together for those new tires and offset rims. yeesh more banging and scraping, i was happy to see wide open mud after thet trail .

[camoman]

Oh and did everyone see those two new 800 poos at the LAST checkstop.........they must of been parked there by the dealer to advertise.......they were so clean...................that or it was a bunch of panzy's driving them.............................................. ..................

You just wait until she's broken in and I through my Zillas on there, I'll eat that Big Root for super...

[Badda Bing]

What is a thread without pictures!!
So here we go and thanks for the entertainment and smiles guys.

[Honda_chick]

Well today was a good day..........(dusty).....but all in all the mud was fun and we got to explore some new country.......................Oh and did everyone see those two new 800 poos at the LAST checkstop.........they must of been parked there by the dealer to advertise.......they were so clean...................that or it was a bunch of panzy's driving them.............................................. ..................


:))) :))) :))) TOO FUNNY Bigbrute!!!!!!!

[Badda Bing]

By the way who called CAA?? :dong:

[OUTLANDISH]

well i couldnt resist........all they had on them was dust......not even a water spot...............i guess thats why camoman cant go on the ride tomorrow......its gonna take him and the other guy all day to clean those things........................ :jump:

[Xxploder400]

I'm sure Misery will be cleaning for hours too!!! My tongue was bleeding I was biting it so hard!!! Zillas Rule! :leaving: :leaving:

[OUTLANDISH]

Yes they do........hopefully someone will post the numbers of the ride today..........how many bikes and the winnings..........just to complete the tread.

[Honda_chick]

I have some pics as well....but gota go get this *dust*outa my eyes..so will post tomorrow!!!! Was great riding with the *gang* again..as well as meeting a few more new Trackshare members!!!! Hope to see you all at Piney in two weeks!!!!!
RIDE ON!!!

Look for pics tomorrow!!
:woohoo:

[Snowman]

well that was shilo derby HmMmmm...........
honest opinion??
extremely poorly marked, and if i wanted to ride fields and gravel roads - i dont have to drive 2 1/2 hours to do that.
i appreciate the time and volunteers it takes to put on a derby, as a member of the Gretna Tractor Pull Assoc. i know what it takes to put an event on.
but honestly this was the worst derby i have attended.
if thats all the terrain you have to put on a derby with, thats fine, but to have that many quads LOST! that can be helped !
we took as many correct turns as incorrect ones !
and we were running into lots of people in the same situation.
thank goodness for the GPS to lead us outta there.
sorry for being blunt, and the other mods can delete this if they wish.
but thats my take on it.

it was a ride, and an excuse to get the great folks of TS out.
that was the day maker, to see the TS turnout ! lots of bikes, quite a few flags, and lots of laughs.
PS the flags worked great, easy to see the group and i got approached a bunch of times today from new people!
met some new members agian , visited with some i knew, silver lining indeed !

Snowman.

[Honda_chick]

:woohoo: Think I just set a record for the most mud left in the bottom of the shower....and I never even went in any mud pits.....:omg: :joker: .....

and snowman...you said it well...:wink2: ...:beer3:

[bbertram]

I'll comment on the derby tomorrow when I'm more awake. There was only one terrible thing that happened today. When I got home to watch the video, well.....there was no video. Either the tape didn't turn while taping or something or bakes didn't press record. Thats so so disapointing. Went to show some friends and I found nothing. The camera works, I was able to record at their place.

oh well, I'll try for some video at Carburry. I won't be able to to do two derbys in one weekend thats forsure, I get waaaay to muddy and I'm soooo sore and tired.

[Mooseman]

I would like to thank Trigger for setting up the Derby. Allot of work, and too little help. A few things fell through which made it difficult to organize. The person signing - decided not to at the last minute and the run was cut because the military grounds became OFF LIMITS, another unexpected problem. However there is always next year and we did get to catch-up with friends from the Trackshare family.
Until the next time, see you later gang.

Here are some action shots of BBertram. Sorry we couldn't meet up for supper Brent and Bakes. Next time!!

BB
Mm

[straight pipe]

man i wish i could have made it out ...next time.sounds like you all (organizers) did the best you could with what you had. if gretna/altona would have a derby it would be pretty sad with the terrain we have. marchand/sandilands spoils us.it is not always where you ride it is who you ride with.see you all at piney!

[wild wolverine]

thanks trigger........sorry there was so many problems with the derby.........its not your fault........you did your best........yes the trails were a mass confustion........but if there would of been more help this wouldent happen........awesome mud holes.......lol........those mud bugs kick some ass........( thanks vinnie )..........and trigger thanks for the after hours tour......we had a blast.......awesome trails out there.......alot of those trails were part of the derby.......if every one could find them......lol......it was 115 am when i walked in.......what a day.........and mooseman and nacho thanks alot to......lots of fun to ride with you guys.........it was cool to see all the trachshare crew out to.......one more thing.......when the trackshare crew gets togather we make our own fun........think what all those people thaught of us in those mud holes.......all with trackshare flags....lol......had alot of people ask about trackshare.com........cool.......thanks again trigger and company...............wild wolverine......... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Honda_chick]

:woohoo: Ok...got some sleep..can function agian..so heres some more pics!!!! Hopefully you can pic yourselfs out ,if you in them!!:jump:

[Honda_chick]

Had to downzize these some more...

[trigger222]

thanks trigger........sorry there was so many problems with the derby.........its not your fault........you did your best........yes the trails were a mass confustion........but if there would of been more help this wouldent happen........awesome mud holes.......lol........those mud bugs kick some ass........( thanks vinnie )..........and trigger thanks for the after hours tour......we had a blast.......awesome trails out there.......alot of those trails were part of the derby.......if every one could find them......lol......it was 115 am when i walked in.......what a day.........and mooseman and nacho thanks alot to......lots of fun to ride with you guys.........it was cool to see all the trachshare crew out to.......one more thing.......when the trackshare crew gets togather we make our own fun........think what all those people thaught of us in those mud holes.......all with trackshare flags....lol......had alot of people ask about trackshare.com........cool.......thanks again trigger and company...............wild wolverine......... :woohoo: :woohoo:

Thanks guys, but I'd have to agree with SnowMan.
It was the worst derby I've ever been on!
The route marking was terrible.
The club waited till the last minute to give me help to determine a trail and conferm the CFB Shilo ranges.
As it was, I took it upon myself to start figuring out an alternate route if the Ranges fell threw, if I didn't do that we'd be sitting there with our thumbs up our %%%.
Although I didn't mark the south trail, I still feel quite responsible for alot of it, because I delegated the job and didn't double check it.
Normally I would have the route planed 4-5 weeks ahead of time, and marked it 1 week before the derby, then double checked it 2 nights before.
Because of the time restrictions I'm amazed it even happend.
To top it all off, we have a problem with the "new guys" that were posted here to CFB Shilo. They are using our trails with their Jeeps and 4X4 trucks.
As it was, I went out and marked trails Wed night, then went back to finish marking Thursday night, and found alot of the "tape" barriers were drove threw by 4X4 trucks (caught them red handed driving threw there).
Then I had to ride the whole North route and re-do the barriers, also the tree branches that had orange tape tied to them were knocked off by the higher SUV's. I don't think they knew what the tape was for, I'm sure if I had signs and arrows that said "Poker Derby" they wouldn't have run them over or drove threw.
I told the wildlife club that I would not have any more to do with their poker derbies, unless they spend some money on signs and give me more help and more time to secure, plan and mark the route.
I don't know if they will, and I won't know until they make a decide. But I will keep you informed on the next derby, if any. And I will tell you if it's going to be worth the trip or not.
I will not hold anything against anyone if they decide to never come again. I put myself in your shoes, and totally understand.
I've never seen anything like that derby in my life and am ashamed to have put my name on it.
On another note, I know we don't like ditch driving, but without the "Ranges" there is no other way to the areas to ride. I know the Shilo area is dusty, there is nothing that can be done about that. The place is a Desert!
In Chris' defence, he did try making signs and putting them up Friday night, but the wind was too high, and he said it kept blowing down the signs or folding them in half.
I think we wouldn't have a problem with proper signs that are made out of coorigated plastic, made large enough to identify them and printed with arrows and say something like Poker Derby in big letters with a big damn arrow.
Yes, SnowMan, it was terrible, and done very unproffessional.:sorry:

Don't judge the area on the poker derby, it is a very nice area to ride, and I'd like to set up a time when we can all get together and just ride around so you all can see how beautiful the area is.
The evening tour I took MooseMan, Wild Wolverine, and Nacho on was quite nice and relaxing, there's alot of wildlife to see up close too during the Dusk hours, lot's of Deer, the occasional Elk and Moose.

Again, Sorry to all my TrackShare friends. I hope to see you again if I get to go to the Piney Derby, I'll be flying my TS Flag high.

[Badda Bing]

Geee I'm still blowing black crap out of my nose.
I think I better go check my machine's air filter as well.

[miserynitro]

hey. did anyones flags not survive the day?? mine seems like it is going to rip in half.... OOPS :dong:

[mudnut]

Hey Trigger, I (we) don't blame you. You are only human, & can only do so much in a day. A leader without a team can not do it all.

On another note I cleaned my K&N today...BLACK, just BLACK with dirt. I think Shilo is missing about 1000 pounds of dirt we all took home last night.

[miserynitro]

i agree to the last statement... i must have eaten about 20 pounds of it too... hahahaha... i just finished giving the bike a 3 hour clean up... wouldn't even know it ever went riding at all... all greased up, all shiney.... READY for piney!!

PS Xxploder400 i did go through mud, just not up to my ears... just taking it easy... i must learning my limits first... so don't learn the hard way of pay out tons of $$$ to fix my bike. Also... i should be ready for Piney, if your there.....

[bbertram]

My airfilter is caked with dirt, my quad is actually starving for air and doesn't run properly, lol. I cleaned my quad today and will work on cleaning the air filter tomorrow. Gotta relax some now.

I had fun during the derby, dust or not. I wish it rained yesterday, it would of been way better then. I recommend you route the whole trail with your GPS, make check stops into waypoints and your set. There are so many people with GPS on their ATVs now so it won't be a problem. Also make a sign with a map on it every few miles saying, "you are here."

Would be nice if you could somehow connect Camp Hughes to the derby, that swamp is in the way though or is it a lake?

[QUADZILLA]

Thanks to the search party that came in for my wife and I I must say the route was not very clear to a lot of us.
Seems that there were to many orange markers and we kept on going in circles.
I know I will have a nightmare tonight and wake up screaming like a mouse in a maze that can't find his way out.
All in all it was a good time.
No problem Outie, it was nice to ride with you guys for most of the day, only thing is when we ran in to you guys at the end, we were as confused about the trail as you were.

We mentioned this to Chris @ Cecils bar and he didn't even care, he was too busy counting his money (litterally), he was sitting there counting his proceeds from the derby to give a crap that there were still 50 bikes lost out there.

Not very impressed thats for sure.

[bbertram]

No problem Outie, it was nice to ride with you guys for most of the day, only thing is when we ran in to you guys at the end, we were as confused about the trail as you were.

We mentioned this to Chris @ Cecils bar and he didn't even care, he was too busy counting his money (litterally), he was sitting there counting his proceeds from the derby to give a crap that there were still 50 bikes lost out there.

Not very impressed thats for sure.


WOW! Thats crazy. I hope he reads these forums, use that money he made and use it for next years derby and really make it good.

Also, why is he putting it on? What did he spend on the derby? He put up $100 for food at checkstop 3 and $10 on orange tape? I hope some of the coin went to the community or something.

[trigger222]

WOW! Thats crazy. I hope he reads these forums, use that money he made and use it for next years derby and really make it good.

Also, why is he putting it on? What did he spend on the derby? He put up $100 for food at checkstop 3 and $10 on orange tape? I hope some of the coin went to the community or something.

LFMAO, well that's the best.
Actually he didn't spend anything. He got the orange tape from the military for free.
However, I must say that he doesn't collect any of the money.
He hosts the derby and the WildLife Club gets the proceeds. He makes money by selling burgers and drinks after the derby.
I did talk to him, and he didn't really seem too conserned about the trail marking.
If the WildLife Club pays to have signs made, and gives me some help and time to set a proper route, I won't be letting anyone else mark the trail without me personally present.
If they can't promise me this for next time, I won't recommend the derby to anyone.

[bbertram]

Thats good to hear trigger. The Wildlife Club should hear these complaints, not much Chris can do, wasn't his derby. I do think Chris or someone could put up some money and to get signs made and have an agreement in place to get payed back for the signs.

I also think driving down the street to get from Cecil's to the gas station was a bad idea. Asking for an accident, this old man was shaking his rake at me because I was on his lawn in the ditch. hehe, I wasn't on it much but I moved over onto the pavement. I'm not sure the community appreciates 100's of quads running down their main street.

Some of us said we should of had the start of the derby in that big field across the highway from the gas station. Tons of parking there, no risk of accidents with quad and vehicle. You could have a tent out there with people selling hands. Slap a generator there, have food and stuff. That would be awesome!

If that field could be used for quad events, like a competition or something. Log crossings, water hole crossing, rock crawling, etc. Make it more than just a quad ride. This is how I think you could expand upon the derby without having us run dusty trails.

[rmkcac700]

Hey there fellas, just my own input, no hard feeling meant to anyone here. The organizers have done the best that was possible. My group was the first ones in, Got lost, Went backward 13 miles and realized we werent on the route, the trails were marked like crap. Not much wonder the townsfolk there are so ****ed after a derby there. They puton the derby, and dont cleanup after it. The old signs were still left out there from last year. Someone had moved them for their own use last summer, and thus this derby left most people guessing where the heck they were. We crossed an area along the south river are that 15 trails went into the bush that had orange tape on, that went nowhere. If I wanted to drive ditches roads and fiels this time of year, I would have left the bikes on the trailer and crused in the truck. Im sorry, but dont try to make cash off driving the local roads, people drive long distances to get to the derby, for what, total diapointment, and a face full or dirt and dust to add insult to injury. Also we were the last groupp back at the end of the day, and we were told that we were too late. missed by 10 min, thanks. Thank god that I am farmilure with the area, we ,made our own ride further north to the hydroline and finished off the day properly, WET, MUDDY and verry satisfied. Im sorry if other people dont agree with me, but Ive been to scads of derbys on mb and sask, so far shilo 3 times in a row, worst one yet. Once again sorry if Im offending people, Im just a real honest person. If there was no the end of the derby on the marshland for pople to play, there would be a lot more dissapointed reply here.

Just got back from the McCauly derby today. It was a bit short, 25 miles, but 2 rounds was great, nice area, awseome mud and trails, Beers were cold, and wind was high, but all and all, great ride. Im gonna go and pour myself into the sack now and sleep off the sore bones from todays ride, and contemplate weather to even speak of Shilo derby again.

So long and Well, Thats my 2cents.

tanks

[Badda Bing]

Geee I wonder what that poor old guy in that big field was thinking while a herd of us come zooming right by him and back again. :leaving:
What the heck was he doing anyways picking flowers for his wife in the field...? :dong:

[NachoMan]

thanks trigger........sorry there was so many problems with the derby.........its not your fault........you did your best........yes the trails were a mass confustion........but if there would of been more help this wouldent happen........awesome mud holes.......lol........those mud bugs kick some ass........( thanks vinnie )..........and trigger thanks for the after hours tour......we had a blast.......awesome trails out there.......alot of those trails were part of the derby.......if every one could find them......lol......it was 115 am when i walked in.......what a day.........and mooseman and nacho thanks alot to......lots of fun to ride with you guys.........it was cool to see all the trachshare crew out to.......one more thing.......when the trackshare crew gets togather we make our own fun........think what all those people thaught of us in those mud holes.......all with trackshare flags....lol......had alot of people ask about trackshare.com........cool.......thanks again trigger and company...............wild wolverine......... :woohoo: :woohoo:
WOW.....that was DUSTY. :omg: ..........WOW.........Anyways....thanks to all who helped orginize the derby.......Thank you trigger 222 for the tour it was awsome seeing the wildlife......it was great to see the new members from trackshare too.
long day up at 6:30 back in bed at 2:00am and 100 more km on quad.
Thank you Mooseman for using your truck to take our quads to the derby.

[jeepster]

mcauley derby? nobody said anything about that.

[miserynitro]

LMO

i was thinking the same thing... a guy in the middle of a feild picking flowers.... as where screaming by.... then i thought... what if thats his land...

[Snowman]

LMAO @ outie - i thought of that guy picking flowers too.
"blasted hoolagins !"
i looked at the GPS tracks - the gravel road where we turned around and headed back across that field,
was right where the derby came back up north, so we had the right idea, bypass the south part and head to the north, to the mudholes :)

Hey Trigger, Dont worry about it, its all good. I can understand completely when putting something on and people dont pull their wieght.
my comments were of the derby in general.
just warn us ahead of time for the next one.
and if you wanna see what kinda ridding we like, come out to one of OUR rides, not a poker derby, but a path that we choose. "Trackshare Style!"
cya at the next ride ! :beer3: :beer3:

[Maxter]

So we all agree that the trail marking was the pits. Sure am glad Trigger posted the gps portion of the trail he made. We were lost and with out the gps I'd probably still be there. We did find four others who were lost and they were towing a machine back. Had them follow us back cause we had triggers gps routes loaded. We finished the ride at 6:30 and most everyone else was gone. Through out the day we did meet several TS members that we had met from previuos rides and several other TS members we had never met before. It was a pleasure meeting all of you. Hope to meet all of you again on future rides.
There were several members of our group getting anncy to get going so we rode out about 10:30 figuring the TS members waiting for the late arrivals would be riding fairly fast on the flats and would catch up real soon. Like Jeepster said " I don't know how I lost 20 - 30 quads But I did" We were coming around a corner in a mud hole and there was Bbertram. Finished getting around the corner and the TS crew was gone. Never did meet up with many of you or with Wild Wolverine to collect my TS flag. Had my mast all ready to go.... no flag. (Hope to collect it at Carbury next weekend) Several peeps asked about the empty flag pole so I got to promote TS anyways. I was hesitant about the flag Idea, but It proved to be a great idea. I was able to pick out TS bikes even from a distance.
Due to the poor course markings many TS members missed some of the best mud and trails I've ever seen. Many also missed the new tight bush trails with lots of good log crawling ever.
Trigger, I think you did the best you could under the circumstances and we appreciate your efforts to pick up the ball when it was dropped. No, I don't like flat land, open field, road or ditch running but some might. This course had something for everyone. We just had to put up with the portions that didn't suit our perfered riding styles. The mud was great, the new tight bush trails, that were not all cleaned up made for some very good technical riding and fun as this is the type of riding I prefer, and the regular sandy trails are always fun and easy riding. It was a good idea to start off with the flat land run as those who wanted to could race through it to get to the mud could. (only they didn't know what the north portion had in store for them) Much better than having it at the end. I was disapointed that when we reached the 4th checkstop they were pulling out so we didn't get to finish our hands. same thing when we got back to Cecils.
I usually take pictures but was so muddy that I didn't dare take the camera out. So thanks to those who did and for posting the pics.
My biggest highlite of the day was watching Explorer experiment with his new tires. He had the largest grin on his face all afternoon and kept saying "WOW I can't believe I was missing out on this mud before". (or something similar to that) and then kept saying "hey theres another good looking mud hole just up ahead" Look forward to riding with you again Explorer.

[trigger222]

Thats good to hear trigger. The Wildlife Club should hear these complaints, not much Chris can do, wasn't his derby. I do think Chris or someone could put up some money and to get signs made and have an agreement in place to get payed back for the signs.

I also think driving down the street to get from Cecil's to the gas station was a bad idea. Asking for an accident, this old man was shaking his rake at me because I was on his lawn in the ditch. hehe, I wasn't on it much but I moved over onto the pavement. I'm not sure the community appreciates 100's of quads running down their main street.

Some of us said we should of had the start of the derby in that big field across the highway from the gas station. Tons of parking there, no risk of accidents with quad and vehicle. You could have a tent out there with people selling hands. Slap a generator there, have food and stuff. That would be awesome!

If that field could be used for quad events, like a competition or something. Log crossings, water hole crossing, rock crawling, etc. Make it more than just a quad ride. This is how I think you could expand upon the derby without having us run dusty trails.


Yes, some folks in Shilo don't support the ATV Derby, however, they must understand, they don't own the road allowance or the ditch and you are within your rights to drive down them. You should have called a cop and charged him for threatening you! That would put them in their place.
Also to ride the roads, just remember to drive with the direction of traffic, no accidents that way...lol.
And I love your idea about some competitive events and possibly starting in a feild. I know many large land owners out here and they would support this on their area, they're very good folks...Infact if I get my 80 acres on the tree line of Spruce Woods, I would be more than proud to host such an event.
Also, I was wondering myself about that other "Orange Tape" on the trails.
I came accross some of it while taking MooseMan, Wild Wolverine and Nacho on an after hours tour. The only thing I could come up with was that it must have been used to mark the horse derby done 2 weeks ago. I thaught it was odd, and when I marked some of the trails I saw other orange tape, drove over and took it down.
Well low and behold, my wife comes in today and said that someone had messed up her Horse Clubs trail today (Sunday). I said "huh" in my usual, "what the hell are you talkin' about" way. "Apparently" she said, "someone tore down our markers and put up a bunch more in wrong spots, our clubs horse ride was gone down the crapper".
LMFAO :))) I guess it was me! I saw orange tape where I was marking my trails and thaught if was from an old horse derby a few weeks ago.
Turned out they marked their route last week, and I went in there and tore it down and made my own...if that isn't lack of communication in my family I don't know what is. All wasn't lost however, since it was just a club ride, they decided to just romp around, the only reason they marked it was because they don't have a great sence of direction and don't know the woods too well.
Dear God, that would have been awful if I was responsible for making my wife lost in the woods.

Very glad you liked the trails Maxter.

SnowMan...or anyone else>>> I would never take anything you have to say about the derby as a personal attack. Infact I'm right beside you guys yelling.
All I can promise is that it will be different next time if they give into my demands.
And like I said before, "Any time you want to come out to the area and just ride around exploring, I'll be more than happy to take you and show you around".
Also thank you for the invite to go riding TS style Snow man. I will take you up on that offer. And thank you MooseMan, Nacho and Wild Wolverine for coming along on another ride after the derby. We got Bones back up and running...infact I think it engages better than before.
Also I'd like to add to all who didn't get to turn their hands in on time...I also didn't get back on time, and didn't much care if I did. I was more conserned about anyone lost, confused, injured or just not having a good time.
Very nice meeting most of you, and it was nice seeing some familiar faces from last year too.
Thank you for everyone who took pictures of the ride, you all did a fabulous job.

[bbertram]

I had great fun in the first mud hole, 20 foot 70 degree hill into mud. The mud hole was bad, not so bad we couldn't make it through a few times if you pick your line. If you hit the holes, well, good luck, lol. There was this hill with water running down it, no one went back there yet. So I went up there, the hill was very soft. I went up, made it about 5 feet. Backed up to solid ground, put the hammer down and made it pretty far this time. Decided to try it again, tried to back up down hill, no go. I had to winch up hill to get out, got out and got turned around, almost getting stuck again. Hammer down, down the hill, lol, and made it out.

That hill was some nasty stuff, worse than the mud holes that i went through all day. Explorer400 ??, the guy with the red 400 Polaris went in there and I had to get get him, more fun.

The water holes at checkpoint 4 was fun, I splashed Optima23 two times really good. lol, that was fun. I splahed mudnut a little, but not enough to get him wet, lol.

The path that run between the two fences to check point 3 was fun, lots of bumps and jumps. I had it up to 100 kmh at one point, Nachoman and few guys riding in my dusty trying to keep up hit the big bumps without seeing them. I hear they got some crazy air, lol.

To bad my shift linkage was out of adjustment and it was popping in and out of gear when under load, so I couldn't ride anymore. No way to adjust it on the trail either.

Can't wait for carberry, I should have my new snorkles ready. Going to try and get two air intakes, cvt intake and cvt exhaust up high.

[bbertram]

Yes, some folks in Shilo don't support the ATV Derby, however, they must understand, they don't own the road allowance or the ditch and you are within your rights to drive down them. You should have called a cop and charged him for threatening you! That would put them in their place.
Also to ride the roads, just remember to drive with the direction of traffic, no accidents that way...lol.
And I love your idea about some competitive events and possibly starting in a feild. I know many large land owners out here and they would support this on their area, they're very good folks...Infact if I get my 80 acres on the tree line of Spruce Woods, I would be more than proud to host such an event.
Also, I was wondering myself about that other "Orange Tape" on the trails.
I came accross some of it while taking MooseMan, Wild Wolverine and Nacho on an after hours tour. The only thing I could come up with was that it must have been used to mark the horse derby done 2 weeks ago. I thaught it was odd, and when I marked some of the trails I saw other orange tape, drove over and took it down.
Well low and behold, my wife comes in today and said that someone had messed up her Horse Clubs trail today (Sunday). I said "huh" in my usual, "what the hell are you talkin' about" way. "Apparently" she said, "someone tore down our markers and put up a bunch more in wrong spots, our clubs horse ride was gone down the crapper".
LMFAO :))) I guess it was me! I saw orange tape where I was marking my trails and thaught if was from an old horse derby a few weeks ago.
Turned out they marked their route last week, and I went in there and tore it down and made my own...if that isn't lack of communication in my family I don't know what is. All wasn't lost however, since it was just a club ride, they decided to just romp around, the only reason they marked it was because they don't have a great sence of direction and don't know the woods too well.
Dear God, that would have been awful if I was responsible for making my wife lost in the woods.


hehe, funny stuff. I was in the shilo area riding when there was a snow on the ground, the day some guys were making a bridge at the power line swamp. hehe, that day we met a 2wd honda and a Kawi dirt bike riding in the snow. We seen lots of orange tape that day, I thought it was from last years derby. I'm not sure if its possible to get lost back there, just keep riding the trails and you will find your way out eventually. I would like to ride back there again sometime, more places to see yet.

[trigger222]

hehe, funny stuff. I was in the shilo area riding when there was a snow on the ground, the day some guys were making a bridge at the power line swamp. hehe, that day we met a 2wd honda and a Kawi dirt bike riding in the snow. We seen lots of orange tape that day, I thought it was from last years derby. I'm not sure if its possible to get lost back there, just keep riding the trails and you will find your way out eventually. I would like to ride back there again sometime, more places to see yet.

Those hills by the river are all great. Shilo sits ontop of an underground lake, and water leaks out of the sides of the River Hills making it muddy all the time.

Almost impossible to get lost in the Shilo Spruce Woods.
If you go North you hit the swamp, if you go East you hit the CFB Shilo range fence, go West you hit the tree line trail and open farm feilds, go South and you hit the CFB Shilo pavement.

[Mooseman]

Well I can honestly say the the four of us had a great time; including Trigger, Nacho, Wild Wolverine and I. After it was over WW and I went back into the bush to help out "F$%^n Bones" who was stuck on a tree stump about 18" high. The stump jammed right up into his quad between the frame. The stump took out his front main drive shaft. Man was he stuck. It took all four of us to physically lift the quad up off the stump. Then was the fun part. Trigger took on a guided tour of his personal trail system. Nice trails Trigger!! Thanks for the after hours tour.
Just an idea but next year what about a GPS rally. NO signs required just GPS marked waypoints. Of course everyone will need to be with someone with a GPS or own one. That would be kind a cool. Once the GPS co-ordinates are marked, then it just a matter of uploading them to the GPS Forum for everyone to download. On the day of the Rally each particicpant could register and follow their own waypoints. For example GPS Waypoint #1 would be the first stop, #2, #3 etc. You get the point (haha). Anyway food for thought. What do ya think?

:offtopic:
Mm

[bobsled]

Trigger the poor start was more than made up for by the meeting of all the trackshare folks and the last 3 hrs that we spent in the swamp! When plans change at the last minute trying to get a hold of land owners by your self is almost impossible. The swamp was a blast,Only had to pull 2 bikes home, next time I will bring a depth finder and mount it on the front rack or a bilge pump lol.

[trigger222]

Trigger the poor start was more than made up for by the meeting of all the trackshare folks and the last 3 hrs that we spent in the swamp! When plans change at the last minute trying to get a hold of land owners by your self is almost impossible. The swamp was a blast,Only had to pull 2 bikes home, next time I will bring a depth finder and mount it on the front rack or a bilge pump lol.

LOL Bobsled, I have a fish finder you can borrow. GLad the swamp made up for the rest of it.

MooseMan, I like that Idea, I thaught about doing something like that earlier, but didn't think it would fly. I wanted to call it "Pathfinder Poker Derby".
Do you guys think something like that would be good?
Only thing is, everyone would have to watchout at intersections and in front for other traffic.

[bakes]

Sorry I had to leave so early but my son is very sick and I am home right now looking after him. I agree with all of the comments made here, I don't know if I will go again to Shilo, it was a long drive for a lot of dust I could get here. Sorry mooseman and nachoman that we didn't go for supper, next derby we will have to do that. The mud holes were fun until I fell in and filled up the chest waders!!! I am going to Piney for sure looking forward to seeing you guys there.

[Snowman]

hope your boy is doing ok, sucks to have the little ones sick !
and i can even feel with ya on fillin up the waders ! - except i did it with ice water :)
look forward to seein you in piney !

[wild wolverine]

hope the little guy is going to be ok.........havin them sick is no fun ....they dont know whats up......lots of grape juice and bugs bunny always made me feel better.......lol........hey snowman ......that was snowman creek right?.......lol......wild wolverine.......... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[NachoMan]

Sorry I had to leave so early but my son is very sick and I am home right now looking after him. I agree with all of the comments made here, I don't know if I will go again to Shilo, it was a long drive for a lot of dust I could get here. Sorry mooseman and nachoman that we didn't go for supper, next derby we will have to do that. The mud holes were fun until I fell in and filled up the chest waders!!! I am going to Piney for sure looking forward to seeing you guys there.
No worries about dinner......we can do that next time......its best that you went home to take care of your son. I hope he is doing better.Filling chest waders is no fun....I have done that twice.....but Snowman took the cake with freezing water :omg: that water was COLD!
I realy enjoyed meeting all the TS members,looking forward to the next ride.

[miserynitro]

just don't eat at the INN.... since their employees are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo happy to be there... and tkaes them 45 minutes to make a couple burgers....

[Snowman]

snowman creek LOL - that better not stick !
yeah the water was a bit chilly indeed.
Nacho got a taste of it too LOL

[Ramco]

Oh but Snowman creek is the name for that water crossing..

[Snowman]

hey . .. .bite me !

[Mooseman]

Sorry I had to leave so early but my son is very sick and I am home right now looking after him. I agree with all of the comments made here, I don't know if I will go again to Shilo, it was a long drive for a lot of dust I could get here. Sorry mooseman and nachoman that we didn't go for supper, next derby we will have to do that. The mud holes were fun until I fell in and filled up the chest waders!!! I am going to Piney for sure looking forward to seeing you guys there.

Sorry we missed you and BB for supper! I was looking forward to it. But we had to help out F&*k'n bones (aka F'n Bones, let him know about his new name Trigger :joker:). Next time we'll make it happen!
I hope your son is feeling better soon, Bakes!


Mooseman

[wild wolverine]

got to get started on new water crossing sign.........caution........snowman creek........very deep hole.........have rubber ducky ......will swim........lol......just kidding bud.........wild wolverine........ :woohoo: :woohoo:

[NachoMan]

New sign should say......SnowMan creek.......great place to swim.....just not in spring, with chest waders on and a helmet.......lOL

[trigger222]

Sorry we missed you and BB for supper! I was looking forward to it. But we had to help out F&*k'n bones (aka F'n Bones, let him know about his new name Trigger :joker:). Next time we'll make it happen!
I hope your son is feeling better soon, Bakes!


Mooseman

I'll let FknBones know.......lol