Ticket for ATV passenger ??

[HOLLYWOOD]

that why a side by side is great to own, i just happen to have one for sale!!!! ha ha ha.

[camoman]

Sort of on topic but I did get pulled over in my RZR on #1 while crossing an intersection.. I had a buddy with me and we were not wearing helmets however we were buckled in. He asked if we had helmets and I said not we are wearing seat belts and have a certified roll cage, his response was OK have a nice day.

I am sure that if we were ridding two up on a quad with helmets we would have been ticketed.

[Bister]

I have never been bothered riding 2up out here in SK...and my passenger also refuses to wear a helmet.

[Reider]

I hear people talkin about this all the time, I have lots of people come to my shop and I still don’t know of one person that has got a ticket! Just this year I have sold 150 2up seats!! So still not sure!!

[Wendigo]

Brutal!!.....Motorcycle...2 wheels...avg, speeds of 70-110KM....riding double all the time..in heavy traffic.

ATV with a good 2-up....4 wheels.... AVG speeds 20 - 50Km...when riding double....in light traffic...and they are giving out tickets.

I hope they are using their discretion ie; reckless driving and excessive speed.

[bbrent]

Have never heard of anyone getting a ticket, or being stopped for that matter. Have been to almost all the derbies, have gone past the RCMP when they were out and never been stopped. I have not ridden without a passenger in years. Riding double is somewhat scary on a single up machine. With a passenger sitting behind the center line of the rear wheels about the only thing the machine does is wheelie, or understeer.

[agnewairways]

My wife and I regularly ride double on our Can Am 2-up. We have been stopped twice; once on the ice and once on a logging trail. No tickets but one constable actually took out a tape and measured the wheel base, commented on the extra inches and sent us on our way! My observation with 2-up is how much more stable the whole rig is when climbing steep grades.

[Wendigo]

I guess a lot has to do with the balance of the machine as well. Years ago I had a double rider on a Big Red while moose hunting....the front end was all over the place. Not sure on how it would be on a 4x2 as the front end is also fairly light. I have a 660 Griz and riding double or losing control because of a passinger has never been an issue.

[agnewairways]

Hey Bister, does your dog have "Doggles" on when riding?
I bought a pair in Osh Kosh for my "rider", a large poodle and she wears them on the ATV and the boat!

[skipper]

So with all this talk about it has anyone ever received a ticket or know of anyone who has?

[Fat Cat]

Here is a statement right out of the off road vehicle act.

so if designed to be a two seater your good to go. So even on a sled you could be ticketed.

Passengers on an off-road vehicle
27 No person shall operate an off-road vehicle while carrying more persons than the number for which the off-road vehicle was designed.
Helmets required
28(1) No person shall ride on or operate an off-road vehicle unless the person is wearing on his or her head a properly adjusted and securely fastened helmet in compliance with the requirements contained in the regulations under this Act.
Where helmets not required
28(2) Subsection (1) does not apply
(a) to a person operating an off-road vehicle being used in the course of farming, commercial fishing, hunting or trapping operations; or
(b) to the operator or passengers of an off-road vehicle equipped with occupant roll-over protection and seat belt assemblies that meet the safety standards prescribed in the regulations and the seat belt assemblies are being worn in a properly adjusted and securely fashioned manner.
Occupant roll-over protection
28(3) For the purposes of subsection (2), "occupant roll-over protection" means a cab or frame that is capable of supporting an off-road vehicle in an overturned position.
Seat belt required
29(1) Every operator of and passenger in an off-road vehicle which is being operated in accordance with the provisions of this Act and in which a seat belt assembly is provided, shall wear a complete seat belt assembly in a properly adjusted and securely fastened manner.
Prohibition of removal of seat belt
29(2) No person shall remove from an off-road vehicle a seat belt, or any part thereof, that was installed by the manufacturer, except to replace broken or worn seat belts or parts thereof.

[Tinman]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

I guess a lot has to do with the balance of the machine as well. Years ago I had a double rider on a Big Red while moose hunting....the front end was all over the place. Not sure on how it would be on a 4x2 as the front end is also fairly light. I have a 660 Griz and riding double or losing control because of a passinger has never been an issue.

i have a 660 also and never had any issues but I also use common sense....the only ones to ride on the seat would be one of my kids and when we do so, there's never any f&$#ing around

[Bister]

Originally Posted by agnewairways

Hey Bister, does your dog have "Doggles" on when riding?
I bought a pair in Osh Kosh for my "rider", a large poodle and she wears them on the ATV and the boat!

Yep. I carry them with us and only put them on if it is raining or she is getting hit with snow from the tracks. She won't walk with them on, she pulls them off, but she knows they help when riding. Without them on in the rain she try's to duck down behind me, put them on and she stands on the arm rest again.

[adventurepwrproducts]

Have only heard stories about this happening, whether true or not, who knows. At St.Jean Derek actually asked an RCMP if he was going to be ticketing for riding two up on a single rider machine, NO was the answer, Im looking for rider without helmets. He added that he would ticket two up riding if they were driving imprudently or dangerously(flat out or doing wheelies I assume is what was meant by that). I am sure there is an officer or two out there that will ticket especially to fill quotas for the month. We also sell many "cargo boxes" with seats, so far people are not putting much merit in the rumours...

Cheers
Danny

[agnewairways]

Originally Posted by Bister

Yep. I carry them with us and only put them on if it is raining or she is getting hit with snow from the tracks. She won't walk with them on, she pulls them off, but she knows they help when riding. Without them on in the rain she try's to duck down behind me, put them on and she stands on the arm rest again.

Absolutely same situation with my dog Brandy. Unbelievable how comfortable she is going at speed in the rain or snow, funny as hell when boating at 45 mph and she looks over at me with wide open eyes and a smile. She usually pulls them off again as soon as she's back on the dock. If I'm taking her on the ATV in the bush she also wears a safety belt restraint that I modified to make it shorter so she can't jump off. She usually runs the trails but when she's tired of the footwork she jumps on and I clip her on! What a suck!!Heh, maybe this should be new thread?

[MILITERE]

i wonder if this falls under the grandfather clause, lol

[jeepster]

Nope thats a different clause! The grandma.

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[Big Dog]

Originally Posted by Fat Cat

Here is a statement right out of the off road vehicle act.

so if designed to be a two seater your good to go. So even on a sled you could be ticketed.

Passengers on an off-road vehicle
27 No person shall operate an off-road vehicle while carrying more persons than the number for which the off-road vehicle was designed.
Helmets required
28(1) No person shall ride on or operate an off-road vehicle unless the person is wearing on his or her head a properly adjusted and securely fastened helmet in compliance with the requirements contained in the regulations under this Act.
Where helmets not required
28(2) Subsection (1) does not apply
(a) to a person operating an off-road vehicle being used in the course of farming, commercial fishing, hunting or trapping operations; or
(b) to the operator or passengers of an off-road vehicle equipped with occupant roll-over protection and seat belt assemblies that meet the safety standards prescribed in the regulations and the seat belt assemblies are being worn in a properly adjusted and securely fashioned manner.
Occupant roll-over protection
28(3) For the purposes of subsection (2), "occupant roll-over protection" means a cab or frame that is capable of supporting an off-road vehicle in an overturned position.
Seat belt required
29(1) Every operator of and passenger in an off-road vehicle which is being operated in accordance with the provisions of this Act and in which a seat belt assembly is provided, shall wear a complete seat belt assembly in a properly adjusted and securely fastened manner.
Prohibition of removal of seat belt
29(2) No person shall remove from an off-road vehicle a seat belt, or any part thereof, that was installed by the manufacturer, except to replace broken or worn seat belts or parts thereof.

Not only do the RCMP enforce this but so does MPI. You will be in violation of your ORV coverage if you are involved in an accident while carrying a passenger on an ATV not designed to carry a passenger whether you have the aftermarket seat bolted on the rack or not.

[oldgasser 2]

stopped at the stonewall rcmp today and asked about the 2 up rule the mountie i talked 2 said he does not give out tickets if the people are wearing helmets and are driving properly he also said this is a personal call and the next mountie may not see it this way also asked about hitches left on the reciever and he said u can get a ticket if it is not removed

[bbrent]

also asked about hitches left on the reciever and he said u can get a ticket if it is not removed

Hitches left in a reciever on an ATV, operated offroad ?