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Old 11-01-2011, 07:29 AM
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Those look like bought signs to me, and if you can kill 3 birds with one stone and keep the rest out by dropping trees, IMO you can't blame the landowners for stopping traffic across THEIR property, it may be inconvenient but thats the landowner's right, as for the snowmobile club using it I think it would be more difficult than just calling the club, especially since everything is with/thru SNOMAN there would end up being a fair bit of hassle I think, the guy probably just thinks its easier to just shut it off completely, now my only thought would be once the snow falls, all that will be mostly covered, there'll be sleds in and down there regardless because everybody will remember the trail going through there

NOT trying to pick a fight with anybody with this comment, I'm a sledder as well but I like my private land to stay just that, I get mad enough when a quad goes in my ditch w/out permission; nevermind 1000s of machines
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its just like powerlines running through your property, you do not own the property under them or the 150 feet on each side of them, and anyone can use or access the property as much as landowners do not think so!! and hunting them is legal or using them to drive down, even if a crop is planted. respect and common sense should be used of course.[/quote]


Be careful with statements like that. MH has many different agreements with regards to transmission line right of way. Easement across both crown and private land, MH owned property, MH owned with land use agreements with private parties, and likely a few that are one off negotiations. Width and agreements may change, even on the same line. Likely the only one that can legally travelled with out permission would be on crown land (not MH owned).
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I think it would be more difficult than just calling the club, especially since everything is with/thru SNOMAN there would end up being a fair bit of hassle I think, the guy probably just thinks its easier to just shut it off completely,

For a Snoman trail, this is how it works:

- Club approaches land owner if they can use their land to have a trail
- Land Owner agrees.
- Club fills out a Snoman Landowner's Agreement with landowner, which spells out landowner name/contact info/legal land description, liability coverage, etc.
- The agreement is signed in triplicate, with copies of the landowner agreement given to Snoman/Club/Landowner

The landowner has the right to terminate the agreement at any time. So that being said, since the agreement is between the club and the landowner, the landowner should call the club to cancel.

It's that simple.
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It is possible he doesn't want people hunting on his land maybe he is a animal lover.
Then when hunting season is over he will allow access to the trail. Who knows.
If its his land he can do as he pleases.
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Be careful with statements like that. MH has many different agreements with regards to transmission line right of way. Easement across both crown and private land, MH owned property, MH owned with land use agreements with private parties, and likely a few that are one off negotiations. Width and agreements may change, even on the same line. Likely the only one that can legally travelled with out permission would be on crown land (not MH owned).
IT WAS QUOATED OUT OF OUR LOCAL C.O'S MOUTH THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR AND ALSO THE LOCAL RCMP, ALL SAID AS LONG AS YOU CLOSE THE GATES AND DO NO DAMAGE.[/QUOTE]

The brute is right and your local C.o's and R.c's should check thier facts and thier sources. I used to administrate some of these R.O.W. agreements so I have some idea of what I am talking about. M.H. can be restricted from R.O.W'S in some cases under certain condtions.......it depends on how the agreement was reached......there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to rights of way in respect o transmission lines. This also applies to some sub transmission lines but not to many distribution r.o.w's.

p.s. That all caps application was pretty scary !!
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I was trying to say don't make blanket statements about these things.

kawibrute is the one yelling about the CO's and RC's.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:11 PM
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p.s. That all caps application was pretty scary !!
I always think of this pic and laugh when I see all caps. No offense whatsoever, kawi. Just a funny pic.

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I always think of this pic and laugh when I see all caps. No offense whatsoever, kawi. Just a funny pic.


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it was my land and you tried cause i'm thinking i got enough artillery to protect my land. Not only that but that is a stupid thing to say, guys like you will piss landowners off fast
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I don't think it matters what his reasoning is, bottom line it is his private property and he apparently does not want anyone on there. His signs should be respected just as much as the two gentlemen one who lost a stand and the other a card from the trail cam.
I never said it mattered and i never said I was not going to respect there wishes.....I am just wondering what could be this owners problem to go to such trouble to be an ass, especially when he apparently lives so far away?

it does not matter because we will just find away around and continue on, thinking how much of a **** this land owner must be. We are on snowmobiles....they don't require trails.
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When people start talking about land owners and letting or not letting people use their private property for that persons pleasure or not; I always think of the people in town that put a 6 foot fence around their property(me included on the fence thing), motion lights(sometimes cameras), keep out signs and lock the gate and scream if a kid goes across and drops a gum wrapper.

It is private property and it is his to do with as he pleases. Whether he did it cause someone pissed him off or just cause he can and wanted to.

Maybe he got tired of picking up gum wrappers.

Permission should ALWAYS be asked for when crossing/using someone else's property and all signs respected.

EDIT. The trouble is that most of the people not following the above, probably are not on a site like Trackshare or one similar and will never see this thread.

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it was my land and you tried cause i'm thinking i got enough artillery to protect my land. Not only that but that is a stupid thing to say, guys like you will piss landowners off fast

That what you think. It's fine not to want people crossing on your land . That's what the signs are for. But to cut down trees on the trail is another thing. You could hurt someone real bad or even kill someone. Use your head. Don't be so stupid.
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That what you think. It's fine not to want people crossing on your land . That's what the signs are for. But to cut down trees on the trail is another thing. You could hurt someone real bad or even kill someone. Use your head. Don't be so stupid.

No need to get hurt if you stay off PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm assuming he cut the trees because because people were being disrespectful by ignoring his signs!!!!
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I never said it mattered and i never said I was not going to respect there wishes.....I am just wondering what could be this owners problem to go to such trouble to be an ass, especially when he apparently lives so far away?

it does not matter because we will just find away around and continue on, thinking how much of a **** this land owner must be. We are on snowmobiles....they don't require trails.

Get real buddy, how selfish can one be??? It's his land, if he doesn't want people on it, it's his perogative. Your desire to use his land doesn't make him an ass because he doesn't want you on it! His reasons don't even enter into the picture.
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there is always someone who thinks because you have something(and its there) their entitled to use it, I posted this in the thread about pet peeves
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its just like powerlines running through your property, you do not own the property under them or the 150 feet on each side of them, and anyone can use or access the property as much as landowners do not think so!! and hunting them is legal or using them to drive down, even if a crop is planted. respect and common sense should be used of course.

Be careful with statements like that. MH has many different agreements with regards to transmission line right of way. Easement across both crown and private land, MH owned property, MH owned with land use agreements with private parties, and likely a few that are one off negotiations. Width and agreements may change, even on the same line. Likely the only one that can legally travelled with out permission would be on crown land (not MH owned).
I have to agree. Most (or maybe all) hydro lines that run across private property, do so by way of an easement agreement from the land owner granting hydro the right to run and access the line. The existence of the easement in no way grants rights of access to third parties (you and me as common folks).
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Sounds like the type of person that would help himself to memory cards and tree stands that he finds in the bush too!!!
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it does not matter because we will just find away around and continue on, thinking how much of a **** this land owner must be. We are on snowmobiles....they don't require trails.
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