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Old 09-05-2017, 09:22 AM
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Septic tank problem

I have a 1000 gallon black poly two chamber tank at the lake.

I'll jump to the problem and leave out the loooooooong search for it.

The 4" ABS pipe that enters the tank from the house broke off at the tank and dropped about 2 inches...

I excavated and noted the tank end of the 4" pipe has a female coupling with fine(ish) threads. The tank has or rather HAD a coupling that was a thin male fine thread extension that fit into the female (much thinner than the 4" ABS pipe and looks pretty wimpy.

It appears that the connection was never adequate since the broken male threaded part appears to have only been about 1/4 of the way into the coupling. One can see this by examining the female end with the remnant of the male in it.

Temp fix was to reduce the 4" pipe to 3" so it would fit inside the old male coupling.

I'm looking to repair this but having difficulty finding parts.

I think I need a new male coupling. This is complicated since I can't get the old male threaded part out of the tank.

What am I doing wrong? Where do I find parts.

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Old 09-05-2017, 10:12 AM
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You might have to cut the threaded end off the tank, then drill out a 4" hole and use a rubber grommet. We just installed my septic tank at the lake 2 weeks ago and that's what they provided, a rubber grommet for a 4" sewer pipe. Drill a 4" hole in the side of the tank and install.
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4" hole saw?? or another tool??

I'd like to keep the 4" ABS pipe full diameter or close....do you know if the 4" refers to in ID or OD?

edit....

I just googled it and found its 4 1/2 od
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Yes, 4" should be inner diameter
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I just came back from POLYWEST on McGillivray.

"Mike" listened instead of talked (wow that's nice for a change) and suggested I grind off the remnants of the existing flange on the exterior to leave a flat surface: then drill a 5" hole (hole-saw) removing whats left of the existing inlet pipe (removing the existing towards the inside of the tank): and then use a grommet that he supplied ($10) at the exterior wall of the tank.

I then slip a 4" pipe through the grommet from the outside and glue a 4" 90 elbow on the interior...facing down.

Pretty much exactly what Hannibal said.... except a 5" hole instead of 4"

I'll post back if it works :]
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Ah yup, 5", that sounds right.
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yup exact fix 5 inch too big, the way I do it is scribe the OD of the 4 inch abs pipe onto tank then go 1/4 bigger with a jig saw and a steady hand.

you want a super tight fit, use wd40 when sliding in, a bit of a trial and error

5 inch will be too loose and will leak, Hannibal fix is the one. grommet
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I thought I would post the conclusion of this saga...

Turns out the existing POS flange (the threaded one) was held in by a rubber grommet...After pumping the tank I pushed the existing into the tank and grabbed the rubber gasket...It cleaned up great and a 4" pipe fit inside really T-I-G-H-T...in the spot the threaded flange had occupied.

A bit of Wd40 on the tank and grommet and about 30 minutes of wrestling and TADA...it was back in the same hole (no cutting required).

So I then glued a 4" T on the inside of the tank with an 18" descending pipe and the top of the T open (for vent)... a few rubber ferco fittings on the exterior pipe and it was all back together.

Total cost about $60 and a ton of frustration.

My thanks go out to Luke DeGagne at DeGagne construction materials on the east highway near Hilly Lake in Kenora. He walked me thru the fix complete with diagrams and pictures at his shop.
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Happy it worked out for ya in the end!
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Sounds like the pipe froze in, then the tank heaved in the frost ????
My bill for repair and pumping was almost $1000. Would have saved about $500 if it had happened a month earlier when they dump it on the fields...
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As it turns out it was -ME-... I broke the connection by driving my lawn tractor over the tank....

Doooh...

I won't do that again..

Sorry to hear about the expensive repair...I had one septic guy offer to fix it by replacing the tank...and replacing the pipe...estimated $6000... I was happy to learn how to fix it myself....
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